SE - 2.2 is Going to Cost You Greatly

[Evangela]

I like this update. I was bored to death in 2.1 because everything locked me out weekly. Now I can grind til I get what I want. I have no problem with grinding. you people must be new to MMO if you can't stand grinding.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

you people must be new to MMO if you can't stand grinding.

I bet 90% of them were crying 3 days ago about the lack of content and long terms goals. Which btw, i have been seeing ATMA weapons all day long for now, lots of them... Is this people ranting even playing this game? Terrible grind beyond all that is good in this world = 2 days.

SE there is a way to deny forum access to unsubbed account? if there is not can you please develope it?

[Edellis]

Why is everyone so bent up on Zodiac fate grinding. I literally ignored it entirely.

You don't even need it. There are plenty of other weapons you can be working towards that are at the very least equally as strong.

They added that crap in for the people crying about nothing to do. You do not have to grind to get a better weapon.

[Prototype909]

Why is everyone so bent up on Zodiac fate grinding. I literally ignored it entirely.

You don't even need it. There are plenty of other weapons you can be working towards that are at the very least equally as strong.

They added that crap in for the people crying about nothing to do. You do not have to grind to get a better weapon.

And yet eventually you will because for many people an upgraded relic will have the best stat combination and it's likely going to supercede or out-scale Allagan Weapons at maximum upgrade, even if it's not available now. It doesn't matter if it's not necessary, the atma farm is poorly conceived and a horrible attempt by SE to give players a reason to go back to the open world just so that lowbies have something to see.

[Calyanare]

I bet 90% of them were crying 3 days ago about the lack of content and long terms goals. Which btw, i have been seeing ATMA weapons all day long for now, lots of them... Is this people ranting even playing this game? Terrible grind beyond all that is good in this world = 2 days.

The Atma grind isn't a "long term goal", as a matter of fact there's nothing goal-oriented about it. You just grind and grind with no measurable progress--either a given FATE allows you to progress or it doesn't, and there's no difference between the two until you get your result. And yeah, a lot of people had theirs within 12 hours, but I (and many others) have been grinding these for 3 days and haven't gotten a single one to drop (and yes, I had my Zenith equipped the whole time; I'm not stupid).

[TheUltimate3]

It doesn't matter if it's not necessary, the atma farm is poorly conceived and a horrible attempt by SE to give players a reason to go back to the open world just so that lowbies have something to see.

People have been crying about a reason to go back into the open world for months. Demanding SE get off their ass and make the open world required for something. SE does and now we have people crying still.

[818iggy]

I don't think you need a piece of paper for stating the obvious.

But the fact is that it's not obvious to everybody, just look at the multitudes of posts that would disagree with your side. I see both sides personally. FFXIV wants to play jack of all trades, and since it's knowledgeable of both yet master of none, both the extremes of the casual and hardcore base get steamed. This is the kicker tho, these extremes are in the vocal minority, think of a chihuahua, all bark no bite. So while it seems that the ship may be sinking, or sailing into heaven due to these peeps it's not. Just cruising along fine.

[Prototype909]

People have been crying about a reason to go back into the open world for months. Demanding SE get off their ass and make the open world required for something. SE does and now we have people crying still.

People want meaningful open world content. Not rehashed FATEs that nobody wanted to begin with. Running in a convoy from point A to point B is not what anyone wants to do.

[Doo]

People have been crying about a reason to go back into the open world for months. Demanding SE get off their ass and make the open world required for something. SE does and now we have people crying still.

Because players ask for this http://zam.zamimg.com/images/9/d/9d1...97d329a46a.gif

What they got was this

http://garethrees.org/2007/10/06/400...f-warcraft.jpg

[TheUltimate3]

People meaningful open world content. Not rehashed FATEs that nobody wanted to begin with. Running in a convoy from point A to point B is not what anyone wants to do.

And FATEs, despite the tears, despite the crying, despite the finger in ears lalala we all hate fates, they are this games "Open world meaningful content". If they had any desire to drop lvl 50 mobs all over the world they would have done so ages ago.

What would have happened had it not been fates would have been kill a million of this random specific mob with a low drop rate and the tears would flow like a river, or they would have been relic quest 2 and had us kill primals or something and lawl that would have gone over well.