PLEASE, stop teaching/telling new healers to DPS

[lxSch]

Don't be a princess healer.

What is a princess healer? I do not understand what you mean by this term. Also, what is wrong with what you call a "princess healer"?
Regarding what i said, lets say dps pulls some mobs and runs to the healer, tanker has no threat on those mobs so they would go after the healer. Under attack healer will have most of heals interrupted and easily die. But if tanker takes threat of those loose mobs first - they will not go after the healer and team will not wipe. If one dps dies team will not wipe, if healer dies - team will.

[cosmicfoolfinch]

I just started playing this a week ago.
I wanted to build a healer as my first class of choice.
Every dungeon either I have a tank screaming at me to not focus on healing so much and focus on attacking, or I have a tank screaming at me to not attack and focus on healing.
Personally i'm a balance healer, I keep everyone over 50% when everyone is full I DPS stuff until I need to heal the tank. Either way, im yet to lose a dungeon crawl and have people die on me. Im a week in and already sick of know it all tanks who cant stop bossing people around. We all get it, you are the tank, we follow you, we help you kill, we keep you healthy. Don't be a douche about it.

In regards to a princess healer, I believe he is asking you to not be a snooty know it all princess, who happens to be a healer.

[SeraviEdalborez]

By "princess" I mean don't refuse to do your job because of your perceived "standards". Like a princess tank will hold up the run because s/he doesn't like one little thing the party is/n't doing.

You're not fragile, DPS aren't fragile. You can take a few hits before dying on trash. I've tanked whole pulls in dungeons and come out of it fine as SCH.

[Ashilynn]

As already been said here, there is a way to balance it perfectly. I've not played ARR nearly as long as a lot of people on here, but I, and several people I've played with, do just that. It's about knowing at what point you should focus on heals, keeping an eye on buff timers, watching the tank's health very closely and having things set up to where you're not fumbling to cast your skills. No matter what class I play I set my skills up in an order I know I won't forget. One thing I notice about a lot of new healers or just inexperienced supports is how long they pause in between each skill. You also need to be extremely aware and knowledegable when it comes to cast time,cool down,stance and your own MP limits.

The only bad party I've been was with a healer who constantly used the excuse, "I can't keep up with heals." One thing SE got right is the MP ratio to skill usage. If you time your skills, do not over heal and use your time wisely you will be more than an effective support.

[lxSch]

By "princess" I mean don't refuse to do your job because of your perceived "standards". Like a princess tank will hold up the run because s/he doesn't like one little thing the party is/n't doing.

You're not fragile, DPS aren't fragile. You can take a few hits before dying on trash. I've tanked whole pulls in dungeons and come out of it fine as SCH.

I haven't yet seen tankers holding the run due a meaningless reason, so i do not really understand what you mean by the princess tank.
SCH have instant heal every 60s and free heal from the pet, but those are the only 2 ways you can keep healing while under attack. Lets say tanker does not take the extra adds from you (those you took from dps) soon enough, after aetherflow is out you will have no way to heal anyone. I cannot consider this situation to be a good healing tactic advice and think that calling people 'princess' for avoiding a very risky situation is offensive.
Just to be equal lets call people who do so "stunt" healers. I would surely prefer a "princess" healer over the "stunt" healer because it's much safer this way, but of course it's a matter of preference and you cannot say one if definitely better than the other.

[Jitenshazuki]

Just to be equal lets call people who do so "stunt" healers. I would surely prefer a "princess" healer over the "stunt" healer because it's much safer this way, but of course it's a matter of preference and you cannot say one if definitely better than the other.

Sometimes "stunt" is safer. For instance in wp it's safer to gather 2 grps before last boss, go cleric stance, spam holy and top tank with benediction once his hp is low enough than risk a tonberry stalker's visit.

[PrincessOfSwords]

As Scholar, I don't carry the Cleric Stance skill into dungeons below 40. I have it slotted 4th. If I happen to df with actual LOW LEVEL people in the low level dungeons, they appreciate me having Protect, Swiftcast and Stoneskin far more. I saved a level 28 Marauder's life in Haukke Manor by quickly combining Adlo and Stoneskin and was thanked for it. And I frankly care far more for that then some holier-than-tho opinion from a high level I might happen to meet in there. I'll throw in some dps in those dungeons even without CS because if I have the time some damage is better than no damage. I've had situations in dungeons that I do have Cleric Stance for that I will stop using it, because I will notice that the tank is getting below 50% on mob pulls too fast. Healing is priority. If you think less of me for those decisions, you're an idiot and I don't care about your opinion.

[PrincessOfSwords]

As for the healing the dps when they pull hate, I will usually heal them. I like keeping the entire party alive if possible, and if it does cause a wipe, they are more likely to change behavior, rather than letting them die by themselves, then they blame healer for not healing them. And I've had situations wherein once I start getting hit, blm for instance, will suddenly "remember" that they can use Sleep. Or sometimes I just get the heals off, including on myself. Getting hit doesn't make casting automatically impossible, you know.

[Nicobo]

I think the mentioned healer need to know how to optimize mana usage and in some cases it is not worth to DPS as a healer,
rather than just "stop teaching/telling new healers to DPS" as I have seen some healers OOO unexpectedly by improper healing but not by dpsing ^^;

[RiverTams]

How about we don't tell each other how to play our roles. If a Healer isn't letting anyone die, cool. I get increasingly irritated when I am rudely TOLD (not asked) to get on Cleric Stance on low level dungeons and throw Bio and spam Ruin... I don't even have it slotted because Protect and Stoneskin are priority. Besides, the damage is so minuscule I have to wonder if the DPS/Tank shouting for a Heal-Hero are just trying to make-up.

If you want a certain role to play a certain way, play it yourself or team-up with someone you know will play your way. And as OP stated... Stop telling Healers to DPS and putting that pressure on new ones, making them believe it's a part of their role. Healing is the priority, everything else is a bonus.

Keep everyone's health as full as possible, not just 50%. That's how people die too.