I hope I'm wrong, but the Zodiac weapon quests..

[Issachar]

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Easy. Make sure that you are the victor the first time, every time, when the RNG pays out. Don't approach from one direction, but many. Prepare many jobs. Play your groups like a fiddle, make sure you are first in line for that drop, and never accept anything less. This has been the rule for many years. If you cannot abide by this mindset, then struggle and watch your spoils go to somebody else. Once you are on top, then you can help the others. Don't confuse dominance for elitism. The difference between the two is elitism comes with unwarranted self importance. Dominance is intelligence and conviction, and the drive to push yourself above the norm. If you lose your golden egg that the RNG spawned to somebody else, you have no one else to blame but yourself. That is what it means to play the RNG.

And facts =/= opinions.

[Kiroh]

And facts =/= opinions.

1.) luck
noun \ˈlək\

: the things that happen to a person because of chance : the accidental way things happen without being planned

Oh, but do go on.

[Issachar]

1.) luck
noun \ˈlək\

: the things that happen to a person because of chance : the accidental way things happen without being planned

Oh, but do go on.

Content in this game is built in such a way that an item will always drop without fail. If you slot yourself into one role, that is your own fault. Mark my words, this "rare drop" wont be any less common than a Vortex Ring of Striking. It's up to you if you have (or lack) the tenacity to get what drops.

But it's okay. I don't expect you to comprehend what I'm trying to get across. You seem to lack ambition

{Take care.}

[Kiroh]

Content in this game is built in such a way that an item will always drop without fail. If you slot yourself into one role, that is your own fault. Mark my words, this "rare drop" wont be any less common than a Vortex Ring of Striking. It's up to you if you have (or lack) the tenacity to get what drops.

But it's okay. I don't expect you to comprehend what I'm trying to get across. You seem to lack ambition

{Take care.}

Yes, working towards an objective with demonstrable results rather than stabbing everyone else in the back to get what I want is a failing on my part.

Enjoy waiting for your drop for 3 months, see you back in the forums when the RNG doesn't give you what you want right away to hear your complaints.

[Issachar]

Yes, working towards an objective with demonstrable results rather than stabbing everyone else in the back to get what I want is a failing on my part.

Enjoy waiting for your drop for 3 months, see you back in the forums when the RNG doesn't give you what you want right away to hear your complaints.

That angst is delicious and pure.

[Radxen]

Maybe but all I'm saying is you do not need the weapon to enjoy the rest of the game content, obtaining my relic did not feel good, I did not accomplish anything it was more like if you don't have it you are behind. I'd much rather work for 3 months or whatever to get a really awesome weapon and feel ahead but if I don't manage it then I don't feel behind because the weapon is rare like it should be.

[RyuDragnier]

Maybe but all I'm saying is you do not need the weapon to enjoy the rest of the game content, obtaining my relic did not feel good, I did not accomplish anything it was more like if you don't have it you are behind. I'd much rather work for 3 months or whatever to get a really awesome weapon and feel ahead but if I don't manage it then I don't feel behind because the weapon is rare like it should be.

I'm with Kiroh, that's basically what the Allagan/EX primal weapons are. Which is totally cool and fine for people who love that sort of thing like yourself. For others like me, the relic quests are what we strive for, to overcome a series of trials for the guaranteed creation of our weapon, something that stands as a symbol for the trials we conquered. Personally I don't look at somebody with an Allagan weapon and think "Oh wow he did something awesome to get it!" All I think is "Damn, dude got massively lucky."

[File2ish]

I'd much rather work for 3 months or whatever to get a really awesome weapon and feel ahead but if I don't manage it then I don't feel behind because the weapon is rare like it should be.

As long as it's not super ridiculous and not insanely time consuming like these (among other examples), I'll be happy:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Trial_3597

and

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Trial_2772

[Daenerys_Sedai]

Content in this game is built in such a way that an item will always drop without fail. If you slot yourself into one role, that is your own fault. Mark my words, this "rare drop" wont be any less common than a Vortex Ring of Striking. It's up to you if you have (or lack) the tenacity to get what drops.

But it's okay. I don't expect you to comprehend what I'm trying to get across. You seem to lack ambition

{Take care.}

I, like many on here, have been trying to parse out what you mean. The comment that you can manipulate luck is especially confusing as luck by its very definition is non-manipulable...

What I think you're trying to say is that you can stack the odds in your favor if you can pursue an item from different angles. For example, if you want a ring of aiming, join groups as BRD. Right off the bat, you'll beat anyone who is not BRD via a need roll. This is clear.
The other thing I think you're saying is that an item's drop rate is constant and if you play enough, you will eventually come across it. It's simply a matter of perseverance (or lack of life) to get what drops.
-anecdotally this is true. Person A spams coil and eventually sees drop.
-logically, this is NOT true.

It does not matter if you have beaten Twinny 15 times before entering, the odds of a specific piece dropping are no greater going in now than they were when you first set foot there. This is how RNG works.

A more basic example would be: I flip a coin 99 times. The odds that the 100th flip will be heads is STILL 50% the 99 preceding flips have no affect whatsoever on the outcome.

[Draken]

Have fun playing alone Issachar