Philo to mytho ratio potential waste??

[Zourin]

Any MMO will never have a 1:1 ratio for something like this. Put your pride aside and listen to the experience talking. It will like others stated be at BEST a 2:1 with a heavy lean to 10:1 or higher. Capping and hoarding the Philo tomes right now is just a formality regardless of the myth cap being removed in 2.2.

4:1 seems to be a sweet spot. People with capped Philo will be able to convert and probably be able to buy a single i90 peice with 500 myth. If SE wanted to be jerks about it, and I wouldn't put it past them, 5:1 will put someone without myth tokens just short of a single peice (as I don't think there's any <400 peices)

10:1 if they wanted to be total A-bags about it, and likely piss people off for a few weeks before they got back to grinding points for more months on end. The housing thing pretty much proved to them that they can swindle the player base pretty hardcore and get a clean getaway in the long run.

[Hulan]

I actually disagree with 10:1 being a likely scenario. Yoshi-P - for better or worse - seems to love systematic and normalized values. The worst case normalized value of a Tome of Mythology is 4 Tomes of Philosophy. We know this because of the Duty Roulette and Crystal tower, both of which return a 4:1 ratio of Philosophy to Mythology. That means, in the minds of the development team, 4 Philosophy tokens are approximately the same reward as 1 Mythology token.

Of course, this is all still a big fat guess, and based on a lot of assumptions; for instance, if they up the relative Mythology rewards per run - which they probably will - all bets are off, since that disrupts the overall value relationship between the two. That being said, the value of a single Tome of Mythology is only going to go down, meaning that I feel relatively confident that 4:1 is a worst case scenario.

[Tears-of-Death]

Whenever a new tier of raiding in wow release the previous tier of tokens went down to a 1:1 ratio. So to say it's not likely is kind of silly. Myth gear becomes the new darklight gear. Darklight becomes dungeon drops. Soldiery gear is the new myth gear ilvl 100. Coil2 ilvl 110 for armor, 115 for weapons.

[Nutz]

The idea of a conversion rate lower than 1:1 has only been discussed by players. Yoshida never explicitly said all of your philosophy tomes can be converted to myth at a 1:1 rate, but he never mentioned a rate at all. I think the NPC is just there (as opposed to it being automatic) so that you don't end up exceeding the 2,000 tome cap. For the players who still need myth, there will be tons of it easily accessible right away. I don't see why they'd go to the trouble of making the philosophy tomes you have now almost worthless. Certainly the 10:1 ratio is absurd. May as well just delete the philosophy tomes outright if you're doing that since it would only take an hour or so to gain 200 mythology post 2.2 (more than likely).

[Rbstr]

The other aspect is that Myth is going to become much easier to come by. But I don't think it'll be quite as easy as Philo is now. Soldiery/Myth will be more like Myth/Philo before 2.1.

[mythicrose]

The sky is falling. Crafters may have something desirable again to sell.

[Hik0]

1001:1, so people waste 999 philos

[Elvin]

Yeah, I really think that 4-1 is a worst case scenario. More probably will be 2-1, and it woudn't surprise me a 1-1.

[LineageRazor]

If the concern is about having leftover Philos, WHATEVER the exchange rate, my guess is the process will be something like this:

Rowana: Ah, I see you still have some Allagan Tomestones of Philosophy on you! I'm sorry to say, but we no longer deal in Tomestones of Philosophy. Since you've been such a good customer, though, I'll take them off your hands and give you some Allagan Tomestones of Mythology in exchange.

[Lineage Razor handed over her Allagan Tomestones of Philosophy.]

Rowana: I see that you have 1873 Tomestones of Philosophy! For this I can give you 187 Allagan Tomestones of Mythology. Don't spend them all in one place - unless that place is here! *Wink*

[Lineage Razor obtains 187 Allagan Tomestones of Mythology!]

You'll hand over all your obsolete currency, and get a certain amount of new currency back, all in one transaction. No leftover Philosophy to haunt your currency list - and, in fact, the entry will likely disappear from your currency list after the exchange.

[Sheer]

So be ready to get back on the treadmil, hamster, and run for your masters!

I'm a goose, actually.

And I see what you're saying, but... No matter what happens, there's very little they could do that would surprise me. They could give a 1:1 exchange rate or a 100:1 exchange rate; I'm indifferent as to the outcome (mainly because I spent my philosophy tomestones on oil for relic weapons for my other classes).