Community in this game is unbelievable.

[Massterchef]

So this one person represents all of FFXIV's community? News to me.

[Speeral]

Wow people are saying good things about the community from XI, you must have been on magical servers, because the one I was on, Shiva, was horrible, there the only people ever willing to help anyone with anything were only willing to for 100k gil per hour.

I loved being on Fairy and on Sylph some of the most amazing mmo players I've ever met. :P

[Amberion]

I loved being on Fairy and on Sylph some of the most amazing mmo players I've ever met. :P

Ohh, another player from the Fairy server. Got to say this, and it's not a biased oppinion, but 110% FACT. Fairy was the best server!

[Anienai]

Ohh, another player from the Fairy server. Got to say this, and it's not a biased oppinion, but 110% FACT. Fairy was the best server!

Remora was the best.

[Sunarie]

No one ditched just in a flash, Reputation matter in FFXI, unlike FFXIV. Remember waiting for replacement don't you? i guess you met lot of those bad players huh? i hardly saw much like that, maybe it has to do with the groups people we associated with.

Bad player(the trolls and disrespectful) in FFXI were treated like a dog with rabies.

FFXI community was in fact much better compared to FFXIV, maybe because they required you to strategize a lot, or maybe because Most of the NA's picked up on the JP's gaming respect for individuals, idk. That is lacking in FFXIV for sure.

I can tell you about my 4 yrs HNM career (i believe i was the 14th NA server wide to obtain Ebody back in early 2005, where most of the NA were still fighting sky gods, the name is Synapse) but i think that is depressing, it was nothing but drama, then again, i see many people use HNM scene as FFXI to bash in these forums, so not surprised.

I have to disagree with you. Your evidence is anecdotal, as is everyone else's (including mine). A lot of people, myself included, had very bad experiences with FFXI. You're discounting all them just because you found a nice group to play with. No, people didn't leave straight off, but there are plenty of parties that were quick to kick people when the exp per hour wasn't being met. And plenty of parties to kick and berate people who didn't have the proper classes leveled. I joined several years after the game came out, and I can tell you finding help as a newbie was not the easiest thing, and folks went straight to insults above help more often than not when I was clueless about something (where to level, and how to get there being a prime example). I didn't last very long in that game, so I didn't even get to the whole NM portion of it (though with spawn camping, stealing the tag/kill that I've heard stories of, combined with the elitism I experienced just trying to level I don't think it'd be better). Without friends, and after launch, that game was horrific. Just as I imagine being a new player with no friends in this is. You're sure to run into some jerks that want to kick you out of a run for it, or berate you for what you don't know.

I don't see anyone bashing FFXI. I see a lot of people trying to point out to you that it's just like every other MMO. Experience is going to vary, and just like in FFXI where your best bet was to find a group of nice individuals who had your same ideals and goals. People you got along with and found it fun to play with. The exact same goes for FFXIV. I have never had a problem with the community, but I mainly stick to my FC and a few pugs here or there. I don't do Primal duty finder things. I do Duty Roulette, and the large majority of those go over fine. The pre-made (non duty finder groups) I have done have never had the problems people mention where folks drop immediately.

The only thing I will say (and again, this goes for -any- MMO) is that finding said group of people was easier when duty finders didn't exist. People from the same server actually ran together on a regular basis and that's how I found a few of the guilds I use to run with in my WoW days. That's also true of Rift prior to it having a dungeon finder, and any other game that has included one.

[odintius]

Think this is mostly due to duty finder also it has great benifits to it getting people together and do content on a whim, but it also has it downsides like what you've experienced. Everyone is different so of course your going to run into someone with a different mindset of gaming then your's that why people like to get into groups of like minded individuals to run things nothing beats it. When you flag for duty finder though its cross your finger and pray you don't run into a douchebag well anyways that my two cent's.

[DenzelTaru]

So this one person represents all of FFXIV's community? News to me.

this was an example of how people are.. pay attention

[Bizniztyme]

this was an example of how people are.. pay attention

But you can quote an example of this in every single MMORPG ever created.

It would be better if you would just say MMORPG communities or just some people in general are just unbelievable.

[wannabesuperman]

I'm on Goblin, and I think it's fair to say most of my experience has been positive. I just reached 50, so I haven't begun any of the high-end content, though.

[Alipoprocks]

Wow people are saying good things about the community from XI, you must have been on magical servers, because the one I was on, Shiva, was horrible, there the only people ever willing to help anyone with anything were only willing to for 100k gil per hour.

Probably because you didn't have any friends? Or weren't in a LS? My experience in XI was great, especially because of the community.