Why do people hate on tanky healers?

[Sebazy]

You guys are just hating because you're not good enough to heal without being overgeared. Same bunch of people who wear allagan chest of healing and then myth pants ( which looks retarded ) just for BIS.

Also, in my experience, people with weird builds like this perform better than those who dont. They go beyond the cookie cutter, and end up being more flexible with almost any strategy. (2 stack fireballs in T5 with a fairy friend. Can't beat that.)

I suspect they are hating more because whilst some crazy builds are actually quite good (I've done plenty of them myself, back in WoW I heal/totem buddied every single high warlord warrior on my server pre expac and up until arena, was one of the most notorious pvp healers on the server, amusingly I never actually specced restoration until the first expac and earth shield, I always healed with a mostly elemental build. Going further back to EQ1 my AA farm groups consisted of my shaman and 5 random DPS from the guild, I pulled, tanked & healed leaving the rest of the group to chew up the mobs I lined up for them), the majority are just throwbacks to the whm/nins of FFXI where not only were they generally subpar at there role, but often a liability to the rest of the group.

As things are in XIV, play style and ability matters more than gear tbh.

Bull on all that you have stated video proof or it didn't happen im a Ilvl90 whm and I know theres no way to survive a mountain buster or T1 with just health its suicide. Though Per your question Whm's tanking is just a big no.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5TDzbqfEAo

[Akiva_Ninazu]

Getting hit doesn't mean interruption. You have just been lucky. Sastasha is the first dungeon in the game. It doesn't even push healer at all. I can heal it half asleep just pushing the cure button. I'm glad I'd never run into you in Duty Finder.

For real. Beating Sastasha just proves you have working internet connection. Go in as SCH and you can DPS the entire time. It can't be tough if Eos can do ALL the work.

[Pakuda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5TDzbqfEAo

I remember watching that video a few months back, was hilarious. My group likes doing 7 tank titan matches as well. Just goes to show that if your group is good, you can afford to mess around.

[TwoEggs]

I don't believe this OP one bit that they tank extreme titan and any end game trial or dungeon as a WHM. . nope no way nope nope nope.. this conversation is bogus .. until I c a video of u doing it nope no way

[Pakuda]

For real. Beating Sastasha just proves you have working internet connection. Go in as SCH and you can DPS the entire time. It can't be tough if Eos can do ALL the work.

Was your goal to miss their point entirely, or did you not even read in the first place?

[Staris]

The problem isn't being able to heal stuff now.

The point is clearing new content with the least amount of gear possible.

Your goal shouldn't be to survive as much as you can but to survive reliable/unavoidable damage (like fireballs from twintania).
Once you have enough HP to survive intended mechanics every time or 99% of the time Then stack as much outgoing healing (or possible damage depending on the encounter).

So yeah. putting 30 vit and wearing vit meld acc to clear twintania in half darklight gear may been ideal (the world first group had 30 vit on healers). That said you would ideally have full sets of non VIT gear for harder healing checks, and possibly even some accuracy melds for potential future absurd dps check content.

But if your wearing all the VIT gear on pathetically easy encounters (like titan ex) just so you don't get killed by easy mechanics. You are bad. If it works for you that is great, but you can't act surprised that people realize your bad.

[Pakuda]

But if you're wearing all the VIT gear on pathetically easy encounters (like titan ex) just so you don't get killed by easy mechanics. You are bad. If it works for you that is great, but you can't act surprised that people realize you're bad.

ur are so good.

[Yumi_umi]

Pakuda made a good point as i think people think they need to be BiS everything to even attempt healing at endgame etc.
Like i'd bet half of you wouldn't even be able to heal in endgame with the said build as you probably wouldn't know how to squeeze out every inch of power of healing potency that the build could offer. Also who said i couldn't dodge lol i did this build so i wouldn't have to follow some of the intended mechanics.

[Raale]

Lol....what a lame thread. I'm a full ilevel 90 WHM with just over 4k health unbuffed, and yet, with party buff, I can eat 3 plumes in HM Titan as well as a mountain buster, as it has happened a couple times. I also can solo heal HM Titan, and yet, I can avoid stuff and keep what remaining people alive that don't die to avoidables. Heck, even had to stone Titan to death when it was just me and the tank for the last few hits. My point is, being a tanky WHM is just being stupid and a crutch for your lack of ability to survive. I have even survived in CT's first boss when all the adds went to the Dragon and caused a wipe to everyone else but me and a tank. So that tells me that all your extra vitality is just a joke. You're a disgrace to the healers for not doing your job. Your heals is low. You rather keep yourself alive than keeping others alive. I can do just fine with keeping myself alive as well as put out top heals. Not only are you gimping your heals output, but you lose your mana capacity as well to keep up. If you ended up in my group, I'd have you remove because I have no interests in carrying others because they can't do their job properly.

[zaviermhigo]

Pakuda made a good point as i think people think they need to be BiS everything to even attempt healing at endgame etc.
Like i'd bet half of you wouldn't even be able to heal in endgame with the said build as you probably wouldn't know how to squeeze out every inch of power of healing potency that the build could offer. Also who said i couldn't dodge lol i did this build so i wouldn't have to follow some of the intended mechanics.

I don't think you need BIS, you could just go with the flow, get w/e pieces you want, BUT THEY SHOULD BE HEALER PIECES. Let's all admit said OP was carried through most content by the other healer. As a geared out healer , not BiS, just maybe at least max mind you can have given the gear set up, in cleric stance you can help dd when too much healing is needed..that is way more valuable to a party than a healer that survives stuff while not dodging imo, or maybe who dodges, but as statted themselves for tankyness. I don't need another party member who is just gonna eat stuff to the face while spamming, there's the tank, who's job it is to do that, and then its the melee dds who are already effing up doing that. I need another healer that works together with me and we save mp.

This healer cannot HEAL even Caduceus, lets just be honest, and Caduceus is almost boring for me now as a healer, so its really not that hard once you get into the swing of things, they just merely wouldn't be able to heal for the amount needed to do coil really in most situations, they would be healing OT, he'd take a really big hit , and either I'd have to actually save that tank, being on MT or ....he dies. Now if we're talking most of the party is way overgeared, which would be in next patch, they can come back into coil and be carried.