I love this game and all the content it offers.

[Zaels]

Constructive discussion isn't wrong. What's wrong are snarky insulting comments like "low standards" directed towards someone who posted this thread who genuinely enjoys the game.

Telling someone they have low standards for enjoying this game is downright rude and insulting. How the hell would you feel if someone scoffed at you, telling you that you have low standards because of your favorite TV show? Or because of who you're dating?

[Doo]

Telling someone they have low standards for enjoying this game is downright rude and insulting. How the hell would you feel if someone scoffed at you, telling you that you have low standards because of your favorite TV show? Or because of who you're dating?

I wouldn't care because it's some random person on the internet.

[Zaels]

I wouldn't care because it's some random person on the internet.

Doesn't make it any less rude or nonconstructive.

[Hitome]

If that had been his/her only post in this thread, I might agree with you. Had he/she not responded to Kamahil's inquiry like such:

Do explain how they treat us like idiots. Tell me how this company isn't trying their best. Tell me why you still play it, tell me why you cared so much that you posted negativity in a positive thread.

Removing features from the game under the guise of "The players might get confused" if that's not a massive bell that they think of you like children I don't know what does, lol.

Their best? I apologise, but I was not aware that re-hashed content, reskinned, and mindless time sinks (for the sake of artifically inducing game length, nothing more) were quality content. As well as completely undermining crafters, gatheres and the economy itself- utterly in shambles.

I don't play it, I quit a few weeks ago actually, lol- I stick around to see if the game will become anything memorable.

Lastly, and most importantly in my opinion.
"...tell me why you cared so much that you posted negativity in a positive thread"

Someone has to play Devil's advocate, not only that, but when we show complacency, people take advantage of us.
SE wants your money, nothing else.

I might also agree with you.

The fact is Mik kept a level head while listing his/her reasons despite the negativity received in response: even after Mik suggested he was only teasing.


Also, to answer your question: I'm not a big fan of people encouraging mediocrity. When Kam created a thread like this, he knew he would receive the responses he has given the nature of the general forum lately (and several posts on the front page opposing his stance).

If you're going to support someone but still say there is room for improvement, that's fine. If you're going to encourage the development team to perform at less than perfect levels when we've given them our support, we are going to have some issues. And that's pretty much what he did with his second post in this thread:

Also just a reminder. If you've cleared content, and are bored with the game. Then just play another game instead of posting how boring this game is to you

This game is only as boring as you make it to yourself.

"Just go play another game instead of posting our feedback to the development team so that they can improve their game." Sounds like a legitimate plan of action.

That type of attitude is what truly pisses me off and Mikhael was well within his/her rights to respond like they did.




BTW, if you want some positivity: may I recommend the GIF thread?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-FFXIV-moments

I am laughing up a storm just reading the first two pages. No negativity to be found: just people posting images of their experiences in the game.

[ShizumiNeko]

Hello ^ᴥ^ I wove this game to I'm having lost of fun playing it.

[Mook_Mook]

Hitome dropping them bombs everywhere, but he/she is right.

[Memoe]

Quality over quantity, please.

Sure they offer lots of dungeons, and are expanding the ever growing list of dungeons you can click yourself in in Duty Finder. However, I'd much rather take some innovative, interesting mechanics of one, well-thought dungeon than another two or three of the same dungeon with a twist. The thing with dungeons for me is that they're all so very linear, and basically the same with a few esthetical and mechanical (only during bosses) changes. They offer zero exploration, and when you do care to venture off the path, the items are useless (10 gil yay). There are no secret / optional bosses in dungeons. No different paths you could take...

The dungeons seem as cramped as the world does, which is my other point. This game does not meet the standard of MMORPG, or the idea of it that I have in mind. Why? because the world is tiny. It's not even tiny, it's absolutely miniscule in comparison for Guild Wars 2 for example. People might argue that no one needs all that space, but even the thought of them being there, even if you're not actively running around those places, is enough to create a huge amount of immersivity. They can be used later for quests, or something more innovative, yet again (I'm waiting for you, jumping puzzles).

I'm not saying the game is exactly bad. But it has been out for almost half a year, and there isn't a single interesting mechanic. The primals are hard for their insta-kill attacks and what I hear is lag (I never had any).

I expected more from a Final Fantasy MMO. And I still try to keep a small spark of hope alive.

[VanillaH]

brain dead healing = this game choking to death with lack of support players , i haven't played for couple of weeks and honestly can't bring myself to play this after being in W* stress beta and seeing how healing could be fun . Healing in XIV just so boring and unimaginative , i amazed at myself that i lasted as long as i did. XIV archaic combat system is boring, thus content is boring. Furthermore they think that insta death mechanics = difficulty.

[Antanias]

I'm sorry this got so negative, and I have become a sad Miqo'te ._.

<--gives Kamahil a ball of yarn :3

I agree with you on this and I look forward to what we will get in 2.2 and beyond. Do I have criticisms regarding this game? Yes, but they're only very minor ones that don't impede my enjoyment of the game overall. I'm happy to see other players enjoy this game and I for one don't give two tugs of a dead spriggan's ears what the negative nancy-types say, they don't determine whether I enjoy this game or not (and I have a longtime taru friends from ff11 who was so spurned by 1.0 back in Oct. 2010 that he'll never go near ARR with a 100-yalm pole).

[infestation871]

Me too. I love this game as of late, got a bunch of new friends + content. Also just hit 50 with PLD and it makes all the difference instant queueing + getting the bonus tomestones on the roulettes. I just think everybody should play tank in this regard as a first character as i did not. It made my experience a much more enjoyable grind.