PvP is not fun.

[Amused]

In it's current state I believe that PvP is far more frustrating and bogged down by poor design choices than it is fun. More often than not I feel like I'm battling with the terrible clunky mechanics than I am the other players.

I've played as every role possible and I found absolutely none of them enjoyable. I feel that some major changes need to be made to PvP in order for it to feel better.

Some changes I'd make:

- Remove sprint from PvP
Chasing a sprinting target as melee is annoying and not even remotely fun in any sense of the word. I know about weapon throw but that's purely a band-aid fix that wouldn't even be necessary if sprint wasn't allowed in PvP.

- Casting isn't interrupted simply by being attacked
This change would make it so that interrupts and other CC has to be used intelligently and decisively rather than currently where you can mindlessly lock down a caster simply by running a train on them

- Overall reduction of damage and/or increased health pools
People can die way too quickly in the average match before things can even get interesting.

- Removal of positional requirements on attacks
Currently playing a class without positional requirements is far beyond frustrating. With how mobile PvP is in its current state coupled with how inconsistent latency is it's a nightmare trying to reliably fulfill positional requirements on attacks.

All of the above in tandem with the painfully long queues and the ridiculous grind to rank 30 is enough to nearly put me off the PvP in this game for good. I feel like this game needs to take some notes from WoW on how to do PvP right as in it's current state it's not worth playing, in my opinion. I'd avoid it at all costs if I had known what I was getting into from the beginning but now that I've started I feel forced to complete the grind to rank 30.

[ulti_19]

I think the complete opposite. I think PvP is very fun, though it is not perfect by any means. I actually like the fact that the grind to 30 is very long, to get the top tier stuff you really have to put in the time and effort to achieve it, I like that. I also like fighting players and not beating down a mechanical boss much more.

I don't think damage should be reduced or increased health pools. I've been in some fights where both sides have skilled players and the fight lasts until the first limit break nails the healer basically.

All in all this was an added bonus in the last installment, I think it will greatly improve as it rolls along with each update. Also I like that there is a sense of community within the PvP circle, you tend to run into the same players way more than the other aspects of the game. For me that makes it more fun, even though you run into some trolls more often than not as well.

And as for sprint, usually the healers use it to gain distance, you can usually go around where you think they will run to, or focus on another target for a second while the healer runs around the wall, etc. You don't have to chase him for the duration of sprint.

[Deca]

2.1 pvp was fun , 2.15 less so

[Grembo]

I don't outright agree with anything in the OP but I can see where they're coming from. PvP is a bit of a shambles right now but I still enjoy it, only thing that bugs me is the long queues and my lack of understanding about PvP in general.

[Zabuza]

Yeah... it makes me sad if I play any other MMO because I can actually hit things 100% reliably as a melee. Playing that and then going to this... I've never seen this issue in another MMO. It is pretty much impossible for me to hit a moving target from the side, unless it's someone who strafes, then it is impossible for me to hit them from the back, lol. Not to mention there are a few moves I've done where the animation will be halfway done on the enemy and then they will make a sharp turn and my animation will stop, so my move doesn't go off....The problem isn't even catching the enemy, it's the fact I have to predict where they will go to land my attack instead of simply catching them. I don't think sprint would even be an issue if not for the animation delays they chose to implement. By the time their 3rd or 4th sprint comes around, where I have nothing to stop them from sprinting around, even if I sprint after them, it is very hard to land an attack when they are at sprint speed. It just takes them doing one turn at that point to stop my attack entirely.

[Imapooonu]

Why did you start a second thread for this?

Sure you put the other one in the wrong section (general), but still.

[Dovah]

2.1 pvp was fun , 2.15 less so

Why? Because you could win by staking SMNs or BLMs?

[Riyos]

2.1 pvp was fun , 2.15 less so

It's the opposite. OP sch/smn and jumping peoples were the cancer of pvp

[Deca]

No, because PvP with good classes vs. good classes was more fun than PvP with 1 good class and 1 retard vs. another group of the same, there are so many less combinations now it takes away all sense of counter comps and strategy.

[Sunako]

No, because PvP with good classes vs. good classes was more fun than PvP with 1 good class and 1 retard vs. another group of the same, there are so many less combinations now it takes away all sense of counter comps and strategy.

any suggestion how 2 make that "retard" for the good one?