As it's Valentione's Day, I ask do we even need in-game marriage; period!

[Duelle]

It shouldn't because the opposing opinion is hardly a valid opinion in the first place? An opinion of "my type of people deserve to have this system cater specifically to us, because we're of the opinion that people like you don't deserve to use it" is kinda toilet-level garbage.

Both sides of the argument are (put nicely) off the deep end. And this is why I don't want any involvedment on SE's part aside from making the assets for formal and wedding attire, accessories, items and writing lore behind marriages in the city states. This way both sides get what they want, SE isn't forced to say much on the matter and we can all be happy and organize marriage as we want to.

As I've mentioned, Blizzard pretty much put in wedding attire in WoW, made it wearable by both genders and left players to do whatever with it. The nonsense and arguments seen here haven't popped up in WoW's forums at all. At least, not in the 5+ years I've played that game.

[Kewitt]

My hubby and I both play female Kitty as our main character.

He had a male character already, But I made a male character on my account.
No need for same sex marriage it's a game.
If Japan all of sudden started supporting Same sex marriage and it was on the law books there. Sure go for it. But then it comes down the my next statement.
I don't believe it's SE places to rock the boat on a social issues in an environment when it could cause people to stop playing/paying.

Will same sex people stop playing because it's not there. I really don't think they would because it's currently not the norm in many games today.
Will people against same sex quit playing. Well I believe some would.

[Naunet]

Will same sex people stop playing because it's not there. I really don't think they would because it's currently not the norm in many games today.

There's at least one person in this particular thread who has stated they will unsub if SE takes a stance against same-sex marriage. I would strongly consider joining them, myself. I cannot support a company financially who does not support equality in love.

[Calyanare]

But then they'd have to implement stuff like pregnancy, childbirth, and children if you wanna throw child support into this.

It's called alimony, and doesn't require you to have any children in order to get it.

[Fiorana]

There's at least one person in this particular thread who has stated they will unsub if SE takes a stance against same-sex marriage. I would strongly consider joining them, myself. I cannot support a company financially who does not support equality in love.

I don't think the problem is "equality in love" as you put it, you're challenging an institution that has been in place for thousands of years for a man and woman that were put there to help society in general. Your union does not benefit society, its a selfish want or yours where you want what heterosexuals have and there is nothing wrong with that, we're all selfish when it comes to our own wants. There is nothing you bring to the table for society in your same sex union, there is nothing in your union to protect that would further or strengthen society.

Straight people though, they provide your army, your workforce, your leaders and the lifeblood of our nations, and its the reason why the union of a man and a woman is sanctioned and holds so much weight in all societies and religions.

[Hrist_Valkyrie]

Stuff

Since when is it society's business who we marry? You're basically saying a man and a woman who are only in it to reproduce have more of a right than two people who love eachother with everything that they are?

When two people get married it's not to benefit society. It's something that has meaning. It's something that TWO people decide. Not the rest of the damn world. What if your peers told said you can't be with someone just because they don't like it or it won't benefit your future?

[ItzKris]

I don't think the problem is "equality in love" as you put it, you're challenging an institution that has been in place for thousands of years for a man and woman that were put there to help society in general.

Straight people though, they provide your army, your workforce, your leaders and the lifeblood of our nations, and its the reason why the union of a man and a woman is sanctioned and holds so much weight in all societies and religions.

African Americans lacking rights was also an established institution. That changed.
Also homosexuals are in the army (Don't Ask Don't Tell was removed in 2011 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/us/23military.html), they are the workforce, they are leaders, and that is not the reason heterosexuals hold as much weight (its due to the bible).
I don't think your argument is the right one.
I also apologize if i'm beating a dead horse.

[Alaray]

I don't think the problem is "equality in love" as you put it, you're challenging an institution that has been in place for thousands of years for a man and woman that were put there to help society in general. Your union does not benefit society, its a selfish want or yours where you want what heterosexuals have and there is nothing wrong with that, we're all selfish when it comes to our own wants. There is nothing you bring to the table for society in your same sex union, there is nothing in your union to protect that would further or strengthen society.

Straight people though, they provide your army, your workforce, your leaders and the lifeblood of our nations, and its the reason why the union of a man and a woman is sanctioned and holds so much weight in all societies and religions.

Gay/Bi people tho, they provide bodies for your army, your workforce, your leaders and adopt children who need a home and a place to feel loved and welcomed (or choose not to have kids, like the thousands upon thousands of straight couples out there). It truly is a selfish want to have what the straights have, because we all know straights only ever marry because they want kids and all straight married couples raise kids and that's the only point to marriage in this day and age. Totally. Especially when many countries and nations are dealing with overpopulation issues, because... we need more fresh babies to pop into adoption services or they'd be out of a job.

All that holds so much weight in a fantasy video game that lacks all of these "thousands years of straights and no gays" pseudo-facts. So much. You have me. You won. Wow.

[Zaels]

Most people that threaten to unsub if SE doesn't do ________ actually don't do it.

Generally, the ones that actually do unsub leave quietly.

[Mikedizzy]

This is such a volitile debate and there is no good solution to it but to just leave it out of the game. It is not necessary or needed to play this game. Let's just save everyone the aggrevation.