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  1. #41
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanACU View Post
    PPl cant understand.... This is NOT FFXI. Quit comparing every little thing to that. If a FF game has a different number than another it IS a DIFFERENT GAME. FFS,figure it out ppl.
    I think you missed his point.

    FFXI came out in 2003 and was developed by the same company - though this is a different engine and team - we can take it as an example: Benediction from FFXI, that they (Square Enix) can produce twitch reactive commands with a "tight" feeling to them.

    FFXIV's Aero and Regen both feel tight and reactive - I never spam my Regen or Aero key to activate them and they're "Instant"s on the GCD. Benediction is not on the GCD and is similarly tagged with the "Instant" cast time but it hardly ever activates instantly and sometimes requires spamming the input for it to fire off.
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    Last edited by Dhex; 02-13-2014 at 08:53 AM.

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hioki View Post
    Take the time to go play other MMO's and learn how most instant cast CD's work and come back to this thread with actual experience. This is poor design on SE's part and it's awful that they can't understand what the word instant actually means. To add to that they seemly have no idea what "off the gcd" means either.
    Agreed, terrible planning.
    Benediction should cast much quicker.
    It's definitely not "Instant".
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  3. #43
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapooonu View Post
    With today’s technology this is an impossibility.
    i been playing wow for 6 years and an instant cast ability in that game has been instant since i started playing it <_<

    no one is talking about lag, people are talking about actively knowing the moment in which they or someone else is going to die, using an ability accordingly, and being punished for playing correctly.

    maybe you haven't experienced it, but it is not lag. it is having to wait on an animation to finish to gain the effect of an ability.
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  4. #44
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Honestly, FFXIV doesn't feel like a game designed around split-second decisions,
    Are you kidding? Have you even played this game before?


    PPl cant understand.... This is NOT FFXI. Quit comparing every little thing to that.
    The point being made is, if even a nearly 12-year old game that they made managed to do this right, why did they get it wrong now?

    And it's a completely valid point.
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 02-13-2014 at 09:13 AM.

  5. #45
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    Truth, so many times I've cast Benediction only to see the tank get killed right before it takes effect. Then it mocks you with a LB bar 'click' and going on cd.
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  6. #46
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    Azarim Erro
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    It's worrisome when Esuna feels much more 'instant cast' then Benediction, considering Esuna has an actual cast time...
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanACU View Post
    PPl cant understand.... This is NOT FFXI. Quit comparing every little thing to that. If a FF game has a different number than another it IS a DIFFERENT GAME. FFS,figure it out ppl.
    The poster was saying that the net code wasn't designed to handle instant cast capabilities. Now I am not a techie but assumes that net code is something that is similar across MMO so if another MMO like FFXI ( insert any other MMO here if you like) can do instant cast but not ARR...
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    Dear god yes please. So sick of HG going off in an oshi- moment and....not going off....but eating my cooldown =\

    I don't use benediction that much but more often than not it gets wasted on a dead body.

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  9. #49
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    Fandan Magpran
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    The way you guys are talking, it's like you're still expecting Benediction to go off instantly. It won't. No matter how many times you cast it, no matter how dire the situation, it's still going to have that casting animation. That's the way the skill is (purposefully) built. So now you have to play the cards you're dealt.

    If there were a second cast bar for each skills' animation times, there would be one for Benediction that you'd have to wait to fill before it would go off. You have to cast it early enough that it can still be effective!

    Nobody's complaining that Regen didn't heal enough to save someone dying, or that Cure III didn't have a range wide enough to cover the whole arena. Why are you complaining about Benediction's total cast time?

    Benediction being an instant cast saves you a major headache: At the point in the battle where you need Benediction, everything is getting extremely hairy and intense. How frustrating would it be to mash the Benediction button, see the .5sec cast bar appear, and then see "INTERRUPTED" because you were trying to run to where you needed to be to cast Medica?

    Some design choices make our lives more inconvenient. Personally, I hate that my MP pool is about as deep as Lil' Wayne's lyrics. But that's an aspect of the class that I play. Working around those limitations is what makes a game's challenge so interesting. (Fair) frustration is what gives games their appeal; whether it's avoiding the next Piranha Plant, or having to make 6 bullets last a zombie horde, or planning a skill order that will most effectively produce HP per GCD.
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    Alaik Ropaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    It's worrisome when Esuna feels much more 'instant cast' then Benediction, considering Esuna has an actual cast time...
    It is sad, but it's definitely true. Also, why is my lustrate faster than my Benediction? Lustrate is obviously meant to be less of an E-heal, yet works better. lol

    EDIT: To the guy above me, an emergency heal that takes as long as your regular heal to activate is not an emergency. If it's not intended to be an emergency, and meant to basically be a filler with no MP cost that can be used on the move, that 5 minute cooldown is silly.

    Like several abilities, they need to decide what they want it to do, and make it do it.
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    Last edited by Bigpurpleharness; 02-13-2014 at 12:26 PM.

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