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  1. #341
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    I don't think I should start a new thread for this, so if you are interested here is google doc with today T1-T5 parse:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...zhwK3UwaocdiXI

    reddit post:

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...sing_act_with/

    MNK, BLM, SMN & BRD.

    Edit: The duration for each fight might have an extra 6 seconds added to the timer. I will edit the douc after I confirm.
    Love it! Your T5 parse is interesting. Wonder what it would have been with the LB damage.

    TY for posting, Amon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitome View Post
    Love it! Your T5 parse is interesting. Wonder what it would have been with the LB damage.

    TY for posting, Amon!
    LB 1 MNK and BLM LB2 total was 42,580. MNK LB did 5829, mine did the rest which is 36751. I need to do this again next week, I have been getting mixed signals from reddit about the MNK damage. What I will do is do a clean install of ACT and have one of my healers do the same. It was also brought to my attention that I should not reset ACT between turns as it will get more accurate each turn.

    I was really hoping to receive useful data by posting in reddit, all I got is SMNs/MNKs claiming 370-400 DPS -_-. lesson learned I guess, next time I will clearly say ACT screen shots with LB separated or GTFO. Nevertheless, I need to get more Foe lol ^^.
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  3. #343
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    LB 1 MNK and BLM LB2 total was 42,580. MNK LB did 5829, mine did the rest which is 36751. I need to do this again next week, I have been getting mixed signals from reddit about the MNK damage. What I will do is do a clean install of ACT and have one of my healers do the same. It was also brought to my attention that I should not reset ACT between turns as it will get more accurate each turn.

    I was really hoping to receive useful data by posting in reddit, all I got is SMNs/MNKs claiming 370-400 DPS -_-. lesson learned I guess, next time I will clearly say ACT screen shots with LB separated or GTFO. Nevertheless, I need to get more Foe lol ^^.
    Your MNK's damage is indeed a bit underwhelming (if your parse is accurate). Here's my group's parse, and this run the MNK was killed for about 15 seconds near the end due to an accidental Hatch hitting him and thus absolutely destroying his DPS for the last 30 seconds or so.

    Normally it goes MNK > SMN (combined SMN + Garuda) > BLM > BRD.

    T5 is a good turn for us, IMO one of the only encounters in the game it's worth bringing BLM. I feel from an efficiency stand-point there's little to no reason to bring BLM to end-game content except dungeons and T4 + T5 TBH, our DPS is 2nd worst in the game in optimal conditions.

    All we're good for is AoEing stuff. Otherwise bring a different DPS.
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  4. #344
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    snip.
    Excellent, first useful SS to be posted so far ^^. Thanks Sleigh. u haz vod? I would really love to see if we are doing anything different ^^. As for the MNK DPS, I'm almost convinced that it is something to do with my parser. Hopefully I will be able to confirm next week.

    Also did you play with ACT settings or you just used it as is?

    Edit: At the start of the snake phase, who is responsible of lowring the first 2 adds health (we let the smn do it alone), you or the smn? Plus who is casting the LB (I cast ours)?

    Edit 2: Tell me about Foe, I get it for the second half of the snake phase for double flares. When do you guys usually run Foe?
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 01-29-2014 at 08:35 PM.

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    This might be useful from T5:



    Thunder * = Dot damage
    Thunder III = Thunder Cloud
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 01-29-2014 at 09:06 PM.

  6. #346
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    Excellent, first useful SS to be posted so far ^^. Thanks Sleigh. u haz vod? I would really love to see if we are doing anything different ^^. As for the MNK DPS, I'm almost convinced that it is something to do with my parser. Hopefully I will be able to confirm next week.

    Also did you play with ACT settings or you just used it as is?

    Edit: At the start of the snake phase, who is responsible of lowring the first 2 adds health (we let the smn do it alone), you or the smn? Plus who is casting the LB (I cast ours)?

    Edit 2: Tell me about Foe, I get it for the second half of the snake phase for double flares. When do you guys usually run Foe?
    For snake phase, how low we take the snake depends if we'll have LB2 or LB1. I am the one responsible for AoEing the snakes either way but I get some help if it's LB1. The thing with that phase is what we do before the debuffs means very little ... you can't actually speed it up if you do better. Twintania's gonna come back 20~ seconds or so after you kill the main snake anyway if you're geared and do it right (I can imagine the right comp could get it to 30+ seconds left without LB3), and you do barely any damage until the debuffs. Once the final snakes spawn, I RS, Flare them, and the SMN LBs, at which point I Convert, Flare, MP potion, Swiftcast Flare and kill the final snakes. Technically the more non-GCDs not used on snakes, the better, since doing more damage to Twintania will help more, but it doesn't matter that much.

    Foe's: Battle Voice Foe's right after the pull since it's our highest DPS phase being AoE and all. Then another Battle Voice Foe's after snakes die and 4 debuff stacks, it will be up again. After that if no one accidentally died or anything, double Foe's in the last couple of minutes. Since it's never needed at any point to pass a DPS check (even main snake, though it's fun to kill her with more than 20 seconds), it's more about what brings the most total DPS.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 01-31-2014 at 03:13 PM.

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    Is anyone interested in a gear set built specifically to combat primal encounters since acc apparently an issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    Is anyone interested in a gear set built specifically to combat primal encounters since acc apparently an issue?
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1767311

    ^ posted a while ago.
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    Thank you overlooked it since we got so many pages and wasn't in the chart we have.
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    Hi guys I just need a confirmation about caster ACC cap.
    In the google spreadsheet it say 432 is the minimum accuracy for T5, is this for twintania alone or for the all turn? (add ect ...)
    Neoamon I think you said in a old thread that 436 is the minimum (maybe some week ago)

    Could you please give me some info on that?

    Anyway I like to read this topic, I find it very useful for my BLM optimization! thank you guys for all the hard work !
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