Making Coil T1-5 easier sure, removing weekly lockout, lol wut?

[MasamuneBranford]

You guys are all missing the point. It takes a hardcore player an entire day to get full DL and it takes a casual an entire day to get full DL. It took hardcore players months to get full il90. Giving casuals full il90 in a day is NOT the same thing as before. Most people are not yet in full il90 and those who are just got it. Should SE set the precedent that hardcore players need to play nonstop to earn the best gear that will be taken away from them within a month or two?

Bottom line: this is all happening way too fast. It's too early for casual catchup

[Hairo]

You guys are all missing the point. It takes a hardcore player an entire day to get full DL and it takes a casual an entire day to get full DL. It took hardcore players months to......

Bottom line: this is all happening way too fast. It's too early for casual catchup

and like i keep saying who cares? getting ilvl90 isnt hard and the sense of achieving is not amazing either. As a player with an ilvl90 dragoon in 2 months time if the casuals can get ilvl90 gear good for them. I will be busy working on my ilvl120 gear ^^.

just to add ffs people with the current tomes system in place you can easily get ilvl90 without entering coil any ways so why does it matter now that they remove the lockout!?

[Ruethryl]

You guys are all missing the point. It takes a hardcore player an entire day to get full DL and it takes a casual an entire day to get full DL. It took hardcore players months to get full il90. Giving casuals full il90 in a day is NOT the same thing as before. Most people are not yet in full il90 and those who are just got it. Should SE set the precedent that hardcore players need to play nonstop to earn the best gear that will be taken away from them within a month or two?

Bottom line: this is all happening way too fast. It's too early for casual catchup

It is what it is.. personally lets me get my other jobs that I like to play with geared up a bit to the minimum baseline for new turns of coil.. even with the limits for coil/myth I've got two jobs at i90 at this point (thanks primals!), more from myth than from Coil.. If nothing else wish Coil used CTs lock-out system but that'd just lead to run selling and such.

[Hairo]

It is what it is.. personally lets me get my other jobs that I like to play with geared up a bit to the minimum baseline for new turns of coil.. even with the limits for coil/myth I've got two jobs at i90 at this point (thanks primals!), more from myth than from Coil.. If nothing else wish Coil used CTs lock-out system but that'd just lead to run selling and such.

I was thinking the same thing tbh, i just think of this as a reset and maybe a better way to use the job system. i mentioned i might go from my dragoon to smnr or even try something else out?

[Nekodar]

You guys are all missing the point. It takes a hardcore player an entire day to get full DL and it takes a casual an entire day to get full DL. It took hardcore players months to get full il90. Giving casuals full il90 in a day is NOT the same thing as before. Most people are not yet in full il90 and those who are just got it. Should SE set the precedent that hardcore players need to play nonstop to earn the best gear that will be taken away from them within a month or two?

Bottom line: this is all happening way too fast. It's too early for casual catchup

A casual is not going to get full DL in just a day, and they're certainly not going to get i90 in just a day either.
Hardcores might, assuming myth cap is removed and coil does not get any loot lockout, but you're way wrong if you think a casual will spam the same thing repeatedly over a whole day.

[Grizzlebeard]

You guys are all missing the point. It takes a hardcore player an entire day to get full DL and it takes a casual an entire day to get full DL. It took hardcore players months to get full il90. Giving casuals full il90 in a day is NOT the same thing as before.

As someone who has been playing MMOs since 1999 (/chest-thump EQ) and who used to raid hardcore, not the laughable definition people use now, I've come to learn that your achievements in these games mean next to nothing in the long run. Stuff that seemed life or death back in 2001 I struggle to even remember now.

The only real gauge should be your personal targets and whether you're having fun achieving them with the people you raid/party with. You'll all save yourself a great deal of grief and frustration if you adopt that approach. Granted, I still struggle to remind myself of that on a regular basis.

[Huginn]

I, for one, will be happy to see lockout removed. It will be nice to get to do coil more often than "soomeone on our team is out for the week, can you fill in?"
honestly, has anyone won with a pick up group... a pick up group that did not require you to have already beat turn 5 and have at least three pieces of allagan gear on the job you are coming as?
Any time that i have joined a coil pick up it has been trash and getting past caduceus is near impossible.

When you have 12 people, and only 8 can go to coil, there is a problem. id rather see weekly lockouts on treasure, ie. once a treasure chest drops, you lose lotting rights for it for the week.

[MasamuneBranford]

How can you all not see how bad of an idea this is? These "mere" four mini dungeons are going to be the most difficult content for an entire half of a year. You honestly think it's a brilliant idea to let everyone get il90 in a day and catapult majority of a server's population to turns 6-9? If you thought people were bored before, wait till you see how people react when they "earn" the right to participate in the game's most difficult content within a day and those 4 mini dungeons are really the only next logical steps of progression for an entire 6 months (oh i'm sorry, you might have an IL 70 crystal tower that nets you il100 gear).

The binding coil of Bahamut is supposed to be for the hardcore (not for everybody). I agree there should be a time for catch-up eventually...but it is WAY WAY too soon. Honestly, if you just hit your first level 50 job on March 1st, would you really be concerned about getting to coil turn 9 within an entire 6 months? Too soon for a catch-up.

[Grizzlebeard]

You honestly think it's a brilliant idea to let everyone get il90 in a day

Firstly, this won't happen as the awful droprates will still be present.

and catapult majority of a server's population to turns 6-9?

How is that any different from what we have now? People can gear up in DL "in a day" and tip up to 1-5 ready to gear up in Allagan.

It really seems like you're creating issues that aren't there just because you're concerned your achievements aren't going to last forever.

Saying that, have you even been in Coil? I don't see anything past CT armour on your character. That isn't me being the gear police but simply trying to understand where you're coming from.

[CYoung187]

and like i keep saying who cares? getting ilvl90 isnt hard and the sense of achieving is not amazing either. As a player with an ilvl90 dragoon in 2 months time if the casuals can get ilvl90 gear good for them. I will be busy working on my ilvl120 gear ^^.

just to add ffs people with the current tomes system in place you can easily get ilvl90 without entering coil any ways so why does it matter now that they remove the lockout!?

I could care less about sense of achievement. What bothers me about this change is it makes 2.1 content obsolete. FFXIV will never be a game rich with lots of content if every patch makes the previous one useless. Nobody will be going CT or primals once 2.2 comes out. It will be either do Coil or nothing. While I am excited for new raids, I fear I will be bored really quick. Then 2.3 will come out and make 2.2 useless. I want them to add content, not replace exsisting content.