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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirol View Post
    The possibility remains that magick was known to Allag <snip>
    I'd bet my bottom gil that if Allag knew of summoners and primals, they knew of magick; especially with all that MAGIck TEKnologie. Possibly it's been independently discovered in different ways over time, like how Arcanists perform a summoning ritual with math, or perhaps the Fifth Astral Era discoveries were a certain type of magick. I'm not freshly versed on any of those topics right now ><

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirol View Post
    Notice also that the Garleans seem to mimic a lot of this technology for their own purpose
    That's really the only way to explain all the Iron Giants and Death Claws in both Crystal Tower and Nero's contributions to the Garlean army. I'm wondering if they found a stash int he same place they dug up Ultima Weapon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirol View Post
    But then, where did the Allag get their power from in such vast quantities so quickly?
    No idea! They had a thousand years; Earth's came pretty far in the last thousand years. Then again, Ishgard had about 1500 and they didn't get all that far, did they.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirol View Post
    Well, look at it this way; Nael van Darnus was granted his power from his Deity. Given that he is a descendant of Allag, it's entirely possible that they also worshiped the same entity. Bahamut, the elder primal.
    You lose me on this one. The Allag enslaved dragons and the dragons seem pretty pissed right now. Until I see a better connection to make, I'd go as far as to say they hold a grudge, and that slavery thing might even be what started the Dragon Wars that Ishgard is still fighting. Once upon a time, via the Theologian quest's clues in 1.0, I'd have said that perhaps the Dravanian Horde summoned Bahamut to save them from the Allag, who in turn enslaved Bahamut as the ultimate weapon... but there are some pretty big holes in that theory and I'm waiting for an expansion pack before I make any claims that are more than 80% likely to be dead wrong, lol.
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