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    TaneshimaPopura's Avatar
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    New 2.15 PvP Changes

    Major changes :
    Disease from Miasma no longer applies Heavy.
    Storm's Eye and Miasma Healing reduction reduced to 20%.
    Composition change requiring 1 Melee 1 Range DPS.
    Summoner can no longer battle ress.
    Reduction of consumables cost.

    They have yet to address Summoner's burst/pet damage and Fairy Healing. SCH will be easier to train but harder to kill, even more so with the rigid requirement of 1 Melee + 1 Range DPS.

    What is your thought on the changes? Personally there seem to be a balance about of good and bad changes. For one, I bet most of the tanks who did Chocobo Down materia is going to be pissed at Miasma 2 no longer having Heavy effect. WHM will be easier to live due to opposing team only having 1 Range DPS at all times. No more Zombie comps, and good healers now will find opportunity to heal instead of running due to double Healing debuff.

    Problem is since PvP started most people did the exodus to SMN/BLM/BRD will the system even work with the lack of melee DPS in the first place for the new queue? I doubt it, just count how many Melee DPS are there compared to Range DPS who hit Rank 30. On top of that you only have 2 Melee DPS whereas you have 3 Range DPS.

    Queues are going to be longer.
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    Last edited by TaneshimaPopura; 01-21-2014 at 02:10 PM.

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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Also now dragoons and monks compete 2gether and bards/summoners/black mages compete 2gether it is easier balance classes between those 2/3 job.
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    It's a bit annoying that I can't play with some of my friends now because they are the same type of DPS that I am. I understand what they are trying to do, but perhaps it was poorly implemented. I'm not sure what else they should have done.
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    Composition change requiring 1 Melee 1 Range DPS.
    As I mentioned in the other thread, one notable side effect of this is that Foe Requiem on BRD is now 100% useless short of WHM or SCH using cleric stance and nuking- because BRD can no longer be paired with BLM or SMN.

    BRD should have been grouped with the melee DPS, not the casters.

    It should be: Physical DPS (1 BRD, MNK, DRG), Magical DPS (1 SMN, BLM).

    I think this was a shortsighted change because it disables one of BRD's support abilities (essentially) and, due to BRD not being known for its crowd control, results in a major loss of CC if you draw a BRD instead of a caster.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 01-21-2014 at 04:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    As I mentioned in the other thread, one notable side effect of this is that Foe Requiem on BRD is now 100% useless short of WHM or SCH using cleric stance and nuking- because BRD can no longer be paired with BLM or SMN.

    BRD should have been grouped with the melee DPS, not the casters.

    It should be: Physical DPS (1 BRD, MNK, DRG), Magical DPS (1 SMN, BLM).
    why bard can not be good with melee classes? I think bards are fine. Before 2.15 bards were most deadly dps class after summoner. Now when summoners are nerfed they are pretty equal.
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    WHO DO I PLAY WITH NOW NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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    These changes are absolutely lazy. Summoners will remain the best DPS spot. MRD still has to be addressed and now, due to 'specific' queue slots, the queue timers will be even slower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    These changes are absolutely lazy. Summoners will remain the best DPS spot. MRD still has to be addressed and now, due to 'specific' queue slots, the queue timers will be even slower.
    Yeah, it's the same thing but miasma2 is currently a Scholar nerf
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    They said they were changing pets. Is this in a later patch or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    They said they were changing pets. Is this in a later patch or not?
    Maybe they are gonna watch at first how much impact that current nerf make since without snare melees job is harder if u take summoner instead blm.
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