this is 100% true lol i am a experienced Paladin and people do post that a lot
this is 100% true lol i am a experienced Paladin and people do post that a lot

Hi. Sargatanas tank, here. I'm told I'm pretty good at it, for what that's worth. Like many have said, I don't typically join PF unless it's with other people I know because of the general attitudes of the non-tanks. Yeah, I make mistakes, but I'm pretty much on it most of the time. I really don't like getting blamed for things beyond my control, though. With SE's new love for the "tank swap" mechanic, everyone in the group has to be mindful about what is going on given that we have a very limited number of tools to grab the attention of mobs off the rest of the group. If I have to save my 40s CD Provoke for that swap, I can't use it on the add that DPS decided to wail on before I could get it where it needed to go (chasing Chirada around is NOT fun). Heal timing is also situational, but it matters. We all have to do our part to succeed.

Sarg tank reporting in. I'm full i90 War, and i85 Pld. If you want to know the reason tanks don't join.. it is because we already have the gear. I am gearing up my alts through CT/EX drops, and unless a party is somehow "greed only" there is literally no reason for me to join. I get my weekly Primal kills on tank, then move on to my brd/blm.
Something to consider for people trying to make groups: You are blocking out tanks by making your gear requirement too high. By the time someone is actually i80+ they most likely don't need whatever group you are making. There is no incentive for them to join, and you keep anyone who might have incentive (alts) from joining by restricting gear too heavily.
Honestly if SE made a "Master Loot" function for premade parties, I think you'd see a lot more tanks willing to farm on their main tank. I know I would, because I could ensure that every jack nob joining a "Greed only" party, won't hit the "Need" button and run when agreed upon lists are in place. Just my 2 cents.
Stop requiring lockout gear and ppl with alt tanks will be able to help.


On Hyperion, it seems like every time I do Duty Roulette, my bonus for adventurer in need is always tank. Since all my jobs are fully leveled, this isn't really too bad for me, but my two best equipped jobs are Drg and Brd, and I don't like being forced to play tank all the time, just for farming tomes.
I levelled a healer for queueing up and it ended up my main because it was impossible to get any loot for my bard while doing all the content on scholar... I considered levelling paladin or something but the problem would still be that I can't need bard stuff and I'd have to wait until everybody has everything in order to get some stuff I want from greeding it :-(On Hyperion, it seems like every time I do Duty Roulette, my bonus for adventurer in need is always tank. Since all my jobs are fully leveled, this isn't really too bad for me, but my two best equipped jobs are Drg and Brd, and I don't like being forced to play tank all the time, just for farming tomes.
Seriously though, that's what I did. I leveled a tank first thinking they would be scarce like in other games. I would finally be a valued and much-needed team member instead of a benchwarmer. Turns out I was wrong. My FC has an excess of tanks, PF teams are always full on tanks and most of the people on my friends list are tanks. Tanks tanks tanks!
From the look of it, healers are the scarcity. I may have to break down and roll a healer if I want to raid. I really don't want to.
Last edited by Xieveral; 01-17-2014 at 02:56 AM.



Don't give up on it, practice makes perfect. You have to go at it seriously, try reading up on it in the tank forums. I'll say that as a War Overpower is your bread and butter for grabbing hate initially on a pack of mobs. Getting flash from gladiator will double your (aoe hate generation) effectiveness as its essentially a 'free' aoe hate grabber, and would be better for initial pulls since its not a cone attack like overpower and therefore not so reliant on positioning.
Also tabbing through a pack while doing your combo helps if you've got dps just aoeing or not focusing target etc. War is hella fun at 50, and if you're good you'll be getting all the commendations![]()
Last edited by Amyas; 01-17-2014 at 02:59 AM.
Especially when those type of groups can't kill Suparna fast enough during P3.




Thank you for these suggestions!I leveled GLD also on the alt to get Flash... then found out it has a limited range! XD
Even now, when helping new people through a dungeon, I gently remind everyone to run TO the tank if they have aggro, not away! XDD But yes, I will practice more! Wish me luck! :3
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