This is why you're not justified in being so angry.

[Nica]

a) I am not complaining, I am saying that you should not.

And I’m saying you have no right to dictate what other people should or shouldn’t do.

b) They can ask anything they want, but it is not justified to be angry about it. All I am asking is for people to consider the cost they have paid versus the entertainment they have received. It is unreasonable of them to expect MORE content.

Why of course Dear Leader Ehayte, your wish is our command

c) This isn't a matter of what you prefer. If you do not prefer this game, then I think you should quit, or that you should have returned your copy before paying for extra months of service.

You probably don’t want to know what I think you should do.

You have missed my point completely. Spend your money however you wish - more importantly, stop spending your money however you wish, that is (what I believe) every human's right. However, people that are asking for or demanding more new content are being unreasonable, in my opinion.

And my opinion is that your opinion is terrible and that you should try and google what “consumer feedback” is.

When you finished Final Fantasy VII, did you go to the forums and say, "WTF SquareSoft? Why is this game over?! This is bull!!!" No, because you paid a fair price for a game. Same case here. This is not unlimited content.

Because FF7 was totally a MMORPG with monthly subscription cost to play.

Oh wait…



You know, I actually agree with the notion that MMOs in general is great bang for the buck entertainment, but your arguments and statements are so arrogant and asinine that I think you should go to a hospital so they can remove your head which is obviously stuck in your behind.

[Lumiin]

I care on an emotional level because I have a personal aversion to people making others feel bad about the work they have done for illogical and unfounded reasons. It pisses me off.

I can't tell if you were being serious of if that was sarcasm, but you can't tell people that how they feel isn't justified because of your personal pet-peeve.

Not to mention SE is a company, as long as money is coming and the subs are constant, they aren't sad and they don't care.

[CrAZYVIC]

I am a finance professional, specializing in business consulting.

In you First post. You started with "Ghosts calculations". How an economist can calculate the "Price" for the amount time the people play. This is imposible, because you are calculating in a imaginary scenario.

Oh wait But...

You expect the people "eat" your Imaginary Numbers and the content in your Post?

When i handle a cipher 1.5 millions is because after of research, that was the aproximated numbers Square enix reported in average subs in ARR. $15 dolars is the amount of money we pay for a Sub. Both are REAL NUMBERS, Not "Ghosts Numbers"

So you are trying to say 22 million of dolars per month will not cover all needs of "ARR" work team? and 270 million per year, are not enough for we receive "worth" updates? lolz

You proved you are just trolling with attempt of 0/10, trying start a flame war with arguments without basis. Good luck in your Next Troll attempt.

[Doo]

I wonder why players just don't make more positive posts instead of just making complain posts about others complaining. I mean what does it accomplish? Does it actually make the forum a better place? Or just adding more negativity to it?

[Kantide]

People don't think about the player or the dev, they just think about the avatar. It's cyber bullying on a scale that is fierce. Complaints wouldn't be bad if they weren't all the same "OMG THIS SUCKS RAGEQUIT" and more like "X needs work and would be fixed by Y".

There are a few of these but not enough. Not to mention the constant posts of "INB4WHITEKNIGHT" or "OMGANOTHERCOMPLAINTTHREAD".

[Tiggy]

When i handle a cipher 1.5 millions is because after of research, that was the aproximated numbers Square enix reported in average subs in ARR. $15 dolars is the amount of money we pay for a Sub. Both are REAL NUMBERS, Not "Ghosts Numbers"

Square said they sold 1.5 million games. Not that they retained 1.5 million subs. You're numbers are indeed ghost numbers.

[Raxiaz]

So if I go to McDonalds and they get my order completely wrong, I have no reason to be upset?

If I buy a DVD sold as new and it has obviously been used and has scratches and won't play...I have no reason to be upset?

If I buy a candy bar for 50 cents that has worms in it, I have no reason to be upset?

Here's news for you: Cost has absolutely nothing to do with satisfaction. If you believe otherwise, I'll sell you my phone fEor a few grand. You'll be very satisfied!

Edit: And just to be clear, I actually love this game and don't really complain about anything in it. Sure, I'd love to get gear faster and have easier access to some content, but I'm happy. Your illogical argument is what annoyed me.

His argument annoyed me too. It's a flawed argument and anyone who's seen debates with these kinds of numbers knows why. It's freakin' subjective. I love this game and I have no problems with it so far.

[Arkista]

Its my fault. But I believe I have the right to be angry at some of the issues with this game when I spent around $870 to play it. But I find it pretty sad that I spent $3.75 on Terraria for PS3 and have gotten more enjoyment and play time out of it than FFXIV.

I wonder why players just don't make more positive posts instead of just making complain posts about others complaining. I mean what does it accomplish? Does it actually make the forum a better place? Or just adding more negativity to it?

I found out last week that complaining on these forums isn't going to get anything done unless its a Bug in the game. So the best thing players can do is stop complaining and give suggestions that would make the game better even if they are FFXI suggestions.

[Tridus1x]

I think maybe one or two people might think differently about how to treat the creators of this game.

I will gladly tell you how you got your "Bang for your Buck."

You already have spent the hours to get you to the point where you can do all of those things in 4 hours. Unless you are telling me that day one, week one you were doing CT, Coil, EM Primals, your FC/Linkshell/static group was instantly formed, you learned your class perfectly without ever having played it, and you never spend any time socializing with the people you know in the game.

If that is true, you are literally.... a liar.

Look me in the e-eye and tell me you haven't averaged 10 hours a week since this game came out.

And because I like research:

Aiskoena Trachynkrepf:
GLD 50
MRD 50
ARC 50
PUG 50
LNC 50
CNJ 50
THM 50
ARC 50
CRP 50
ARM 13
LTH 50
ACH 50
BLS 16
GLD 50
WVR 50
CUL 50
MIN 50
BOT 50
FSH 12

I realize you are probably a legacy player . . . but what I am saying is that you front-loaded your consumption, you spent a lot of time on this when the game came out, and it simply couldn't handle your awesome ability to consume. They couldn't hire enough game developers for the price you paid to entertain you enough.

First off not a legacy player, but you just proved my point by mentioning legacy players that already had everything at max level(Also you are bad at research since you got that wrong). So the groups they needed were there when CT, Coil, EM primals came out. It's also how a static was instantly formed. I know it's shocking that a group of players ready for high level end game stuff, only want to do high level end game stuff. /eyeroll

So in turn you blame the player for....playing something they pay a sub for. So once again, stop being a white-knight and complain about people complaining. If they have concerns or problems with the game, they will voice it, that's the whole point of a forum. Hey my Netflix sub cost less than this game and I can watch hours upon hours of things on that, oh wait that ruins your entire argument doesn't it? Sorry /eyeroll

So please tell me again how 4 hours a week is getting my moneys worth, since you are big on comparing other forms of entertainment/value. (Address my Netflix point)

[Tiggy]

First off not a legacy player, but you just proved my point

No, you just proved his point. You consume faster than anyone can possible create, and the fact you aren't legacy just makes it that much worse. That's on you bud.