An Open Letter to Yoshida-san: Please Slice One Zero Off the Housing Prices

[AmnesiaHaze]

the housing should be affordable on day 1 for most players , what do they expect us to grind house gil for half a year and not spending for anything else ?

sorry , the unrealistic pricing just a huge letdown no matter how they or you try to justify it , and will ultimately only lead to most players not experiencing a core feature before their subscription ends , i spent a fair amount of time in this game yet i am nowhere near to afford housing even within the coming months

i think not releasing housing at all would be more beneficial to the game (majority of users) than teasing people for months with it and then not letting them to experience it due to a unreasonable gil barrier

my so far good "customer experience" with the game had taken a small hit right there and when ill be deciding if to prolong my subscription later this year (especially after ESO launch) this will be taken in to consideration as well

You can go inside someone elses house as long as they are open to the public and a lot of people open theirs to the public so they can show it off.

sorry , but this is not a solution for people who want to experience housing , its similar to watching someone else play the game instead of you

[ArkhamNative]

SE did their latest Legacy prices drop last night. Prices are becoming more affordable on legacy worlds, though there's still a long way to drop.

The cheapest small plot is now 12M on NA legacy worlds. That's about 800k gil per member of a 15-member FC. The medium is 45M or about 900k each for 50. Large is about 1.5M each for 100. (Double these numbers for JP legacy worlds.)

The bottom (mid-March) would be about 132k/150k/250k each at the above numbers of members, but I think most FCs will decide to purchase weeks before that. New listings would start at twice that amount, or 8M/30M/100M for cheapest S/M/L. These numbers apply to both NA and JP worlds.

These numbers don't take into account the "all worlds" pricing adjustments SE is already considering.

[Lingarn]

Also I see posts such as "Alright so you're going to have a free to play weekend for players that left, what are we supposed to show these players in 2-3 days? New dungeons they can't really enter till they complete some FATE and other requirements? Oh, I hope to god they don't go check out the housing area, it's not because there isn't any housing, but it shows the cost of the land at zone... I'm sure that's just going to kill their interest even more and quit longer..."

Well said. The continued fault of this relaunch appears to be an unwillingness to invest in the infrastructure necessary for success. I'm sure this is done so that they don't overestimate demand, spread too thin, and have to merge servers later -- but having too few servers to allow players to play the game or access certain features is a problem that has plagued ARR since day one. Being too cheap will absolutely drive players away, especially when you have a sub only game.

[HEC]

The cheapest small plot is now 12M on NA legacy worlds. That's about 800k gil per member of a 15-member FC.

Have you seen the small house from inside? There is NO way that 15 (or even 6 - 8) people can fit there ...

Prices are still joke, the "decreasing" / "re-evaluation" of the prices is nothing else but stalling tactics and all this is a farce from the very begining insulting all the players / paying customers out there. Luckilly - people are not stupid and can see through the smoke screen and are already leaving the game where they're being treated like trash.

Yoshi - stop hiding, be a MAN and finally FIX this crap! Cut the price to 1/10 of the lowest tier and set it the same accross the all servers. Can't you see that you're cutting your own branch under you??

[Illya]

The real question is, will FCs who have already bought a house get a refund if there's a big price drop down the road? If not, then there's no reason at all to buy a house. None.

[ArkhamNative]

Have you seen the small house from inside?

Yes, it had a sofa + 2 chairs, a desk with chair, a table with chairs, and a bed. It was "cozy". 10 could sit and 15 could squeeze in. Usually an FC isn't online at the same time, let alone all in the same building. That said, yes, I think the small should be changed to have 2x the floor space and/or a second floor.

Pricing: I also agree that it's unreasonable to expect people to devote 7 days a week for 3 months just to save for FC housing. Those numbers are from an interview last month. Even though that's game content ("fun"), it's nearly 3 hours a day not counting Duty Finder wait times or preparation/travel. More reasonable would be a few days a week, and around a month of saving. I rambled in full about reasonable pricing here.

[HEC]

Usually an FC isn't online at the same time, let alone all in the same building.

Actually - smaller FCs often tend to be more tight-knitten, from the same time zone and being on at the same time plus once you'll try to display your valuable raid furnishing trophies in your lovely FC home you'll find out very soon that it's a bit too much "cozy"

Either way - prices are way out of line, the pricing disparity between server is discriminating (and I'm saying that being in the second "cheapest" server group) and the way Yoshi and whole dev team is IGNORING us from the day one and only playing for time with useless "decreases" in the price is very disturbing

[Cor_Dirge]

Personally I think a handful of worlds should band together, spend pretty much the entire worlds gil supply on buying houses and see if we can crash the SE servers and see how much SE grovel and apologize for their (oh so well known) incompetence.
Maybe then they would be a bit less stingy with their spending on ARR as they clearly haven't put enough money into it if a multi-million dollar company are afraid of server crashes.

god damn SE are doing my tits in atm.

[Kyana]

The real question is, will FCs who have already bought a house get a refund if there's a big price drop down the road? If not, then there's no reason at all to buy a house. None.

I highly doubt there will be any refund. After all, they made it so expensive to get gil out of the system instead of getting rid of the gilsellers and bot farmers flooding gil into the game.
Even worse. If your FC leader stops playing, nobody else can take over the FC and if your FC decides to take some time off your house could be gone when you come back (without refund).

And I don't see any reason to buy a house yet. There is no bonus or feature or advantage you get by owning one.
It's just a waste of gil and a style/ego/bragging thing at the moment.

[KraggyKor]

And I don't see any reason to buy a house yet. There is no bonus or feature or advantage you get by owning one.
It's just a waste of gil and a style/ego/bragging thing at the moment.

Unlike those who run Coil who don't have any interest in the 'bragging rights' or ego .. I see you're on T4.

Your comment about housing is so laughable it's untrue, housing is one of the most casual and least hard-core activities and casuals are those who least care about phat lewt or the 'bragging rights' so many end-gamers think [stupidly] such items gain them.