Gotta love the community in this game...

[ROOTFayth]

Makes perfect sense to me. Going into a fight with others and not being a dead weight. I'm pretty sure their df success rate is way higher than ours.

no way, there is literally no requirements for DF, no minimum gear level nor any comment, nothing at all... you can't possibly expect it to be more effective than party finder

[Doo]

no way, there is literally no requirements for DF, no minimum gear level nor any comment, nothing at all... you can't possibly expect it to be more effective than party finder

I'm just saying if pf was use for practice groups and df for when they are more familair or ready for the fight, then it would be a better experience for players overall. As of right now I'm pretty sure most players queue into DF expecting failure and someone to rage quit after one or two tries.

[ROOTFayth]

but it is the nature of it... the only way it could work the way JP severs expect it to work is if there would be some sort of ladder ranking and it matches you with player of similar skill level (gain points based on what you clear or something)

[epryn]

...if you can put together a full party to attempt content, there's really no point to using duty finder at all. Subjecting yourself to whatever random players are trying to do it at that time.

I can understand why that might be the expectation on JP servers, but it really does defeat the purpose of duty finder if you've already making preformed groups.

[Grailer]

imo you should at least have watched the fight on youtube, that way you waste nobody's time.

This is cheating .

Better off to find out by trial and error how to do it .

You can't waste time in a game because you are already wasting time by playing a game.

[Calyanare]

but it is the nature of it... the only way it could work the way JP severs expect it to work is if there would be some sort of ladder ranking and it matches you with player of similar skill level (gain points based on what you clear or something)

It actually works fine over there because nearly everyone does it. There's also a few cultural differences at work there as well.

[Doo]

This is cheating .

90+ percent of the player base are cheaters.

[Grailer]

90+ percent of the player base are cheaters.

Just like in the real world people cheat if they know they wont get caught .

[Kincard]

You can't waste time in a game because you are already wasting time by playing a game.

I play this game for recreation and fun.

If it is a learning group, feel free to join. If it is not, don't. By participating in an actual run group and not telling me you have no idea what you're doing you are making the game less fun for me and ergo you are wasting my time.

I bet people like you are a real roar at parties. You probably go to them, start dumping soda on the floor and get on the table to tell bad jokes and then tell everyone you not possibly wasting their time because they're already wasting their time just partying instead of just contributing to society.

[OPneedNerfs]

This is cheating .

Better off to find out by trial and error how to do it .

You can't waste time in a game because you are already wasting time by playing a game.

No, it's called reinventing the wheel.