Further proof that the market wards are a festival of failure.

[Warlyx]

the 7 item limit is because Ps2 limitations..............

[normalforce]

I remember buying a wand from someone in the Tailor Ward's and thinking uncharitable thoughts about him until I saw that all his other items were actually in the correct wards. Oops. ,_,

One way they can streamline the MW system is to remove the physical location of the wards altogether. Everything would be done via retainers, both selling and buying. When selling items, the items would only show up 30 minutes after posting on the market, and will always incur a 5% tax (since there is no "favored" ward). When buying items, you can now set your retainer to seek certain items at certain prices, and to purchase certain quantities of it, in addition to browsing and purchasing immediately. Once the item you are seeking for is posted at the desired price, the retainer will automatically purchase it. In addition, notifications should be added to tell when items have been sold or found. Calling a retainer will stop the search or sale process, as it is right now. The remaining market ward location can be converted into the entrance to housing units, which can be purchased for the right price.

This seems like the good way to make the Market Wards salvageable.

[Rentahamster]

I'll just repost some stuff from another thread instead of writing it all over again.

Well, there you have it. I’m fairly certain this both corrects the current problems with the wards, and also adds missing functionality found in other systems that many have requested. [/COLOR]

This doesn't fix the main problem with the wards. The main problem with the wards is that it is an unstable mess due to the servers not being able to handle the load and the game engine not being able to handle all the NPCs at once.

Your suggestions, while admirable, are not going to fix the underlying server issues, no matter how many instances you spread the NPCs out.


"Market Ward Structure" - your suggestions here are to alleviate problems like,

"The second is that due to the way the game has structured the market wards, the stalls are mostly empty, while people must wade through a literal sea of retainers to find the one you want.

Third, due to the aforementioned issues, the wards crash frequently. This is an aggravation to both buyers and sellers."

Here's an easier solution - get rid of the NPCs for now until they optimize the server code.


"Market Ward Finances" - your suggestions here are to alleviate problems like:

The system as is very bland, and there’s no incentive to selling or buying anywhere other than Ul’dah at this point in time.

Everyone sells their stuff in Uldah - okay, so what do we do? You suggest a complex system of taxes. That is overly complicated and does not address the main reason people want to sell in Uldah only.

Here's an easier solution - merge the market wards of all 3 cities into one market ward, like what they did recently for Final Fantasy 11. No matter which city you're in, you'll always find lots of stuff to buy and sell.


"Market Ward UI" - your UI suggestions are needed due to your previous two sections of fixes.

Well, now that we've gotten rid of NPC retainers and merged the wards, we don't even really need most of the suggestions you have.


You only need to do two things and that alone would fix the majority of the problems. At a later date, when the server code is better optimized, they can reintroduce the NPC retainer system, and expand on it.


this, too: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...earch-counter?

[Mack]

the 7 item limit is because Ps2 limitations..............

You mean the excuse you were given? they allow you to purchase more slots nowadays, how did the PS2 limitations suddenly have some leeway?

Here's an easier solution - merge the market wards of all 3 cities into one market ward, like what they did recently for Final Fantasy 11. No matter which city you're in, you'll always find lots of stuff to buy and sell.

This would be a good solution if space wasn't of importance but we got a low population in FFXIV today and we're already running out of room in the wards.

[Carzilla]

Why dont they just make a retainer per linkshell that sells your teams stuff

[SeraviEdalborez]

Is the (slightly) higher tax even that big of a deal? Considering gil is useless after a point unless you have a diehard obsession for HQ items or lack the drive/manpower to get certain drops? Sure it adds up in the long run, but that's hardly "proof" that the wards are a "festival of failure". If anything it's just the opinion (shared by more than a few) that the wards are inconvenient or non-intuitive.

[Anty]

In before "But they can just add more [Category] Ward, like Ward 1, Ward 2, and Ward 3!"

with all the zoning... this would make things even more slow and boring...

[Dyne]

The point is give everyone 100 slot bazaar on the retainer, and most people can do with 1 retainer. Give global search and everyone can place their retainer anywhere in any city. Just to clarify that up for all those people that missed the point by 100 miles trying to defend "Auction House is better".

[Dyne]

with all the zoning... this would make things even more slow and boring...

The market wards is much more realistic than an auction house with npc to peddle your goods instead of items magically appearing on your inventory. Of course, you wouldn't care, you want everything NOW, NOW, NOW, ME, ME, ME, NOW, NOW, NOW.

[LanikMueller]

I made a argument for keeping the market wards around after/if we get a auction house in the "So you get one wish" thread. I think the market wards could still be useful tho would see much less traffic.

Lots of good ideas in here, few not so good but I agree with most of the ideas here.
My one addition would be for a MMO standard style Auction house. The one in XI was ok Id gladly take that(Tho to do this you would also need a mail system). Now dont take the market wards and retainers away. In any MMO there is always a street or area where a flee market of people setup a bazaar and sell what they could not put on the AH. Keeping the market ward would save people from having to leave their accounts logged in and PC's on for god knows how long. This would save some bandwidth also.