Casting Succor before battle...

[Snowaeth]

Succor is the lazy person's pre-shielding.
It's a small shield, but the mp will regen anyway.

[Sothe]

I always cast it before battle. My MP will heal, plus its better to be safe than sorry.

[BoBoz]

Succor will bubble for the exact amount that it healed for, when it crits, the shield will still only match strength of the heal. 500heal/500shield - 1k crit heal/1k shield.
Adlo will bubble for the exact amount healed for -unless- you crit, then the shield will also crit meaning that the shield will be DOUBLE the strength of the crit heal. 500 heal/500 shield - 1k crit heal/2k crit shield.

Succor will never over write Adlo. Shields will never over write a stronger shield.

Thx for correcting me

Now I don't have to worry about shield will overwriting each other. (Succor/Aldo)
and if it's true that Aldo crit will x4 shield's hp, I'll looking forward to stack Crit in my gear.
So Mind > Crit > Deter/Spell Speed/Piety, right?

but how about if Aldo shield had 1k hp but it droped to 100hp, will new Aldo cast or Succor Shield replace the 100hp Shield?

ps.hate to 1000 character per post restriction, but why I feel that other ppl's posts have more than 1000char ???

[Alu79]

Thx for correcting me

Now I don't have to worry about shield will overwriting each other. (Succor/Aldo)
and if it's true that Aldo crit will x4 shield's hp, I'll looking forward to stack Crit in my gear.
So Mind > Crit > Deter/Spell Speed/Piety, right?

but how about if Aldo shield had 1k hp but it droped to 100hp, will new Aldo cast or Succor Shield replace the 100hp Shield?

ps.hate to 1000 character per post restriction, but why I feel that other ppl's posts have more than 1000char ???

Edit lets you ignore the character cap.

[Rumstein]

Clarification on what a few of you seem to miss.

When you heal, they WILL be healed for that much. The green number will state how much they are healed for, and that number corresponds to the strength of the shield.

When they are at 100% HP, you STILL heal them for the same amount, the amount of HP they RECOVER is 0. Your EFFECTIVE HEALING is the amount that they recover (Efficiency = effective/total), and does not actually affect the strength of the shield.

Succor, tank at 50% HP.
Heal = 300. HP restored = 300. Shield = 300.

Succor, tank at 100% HP.
Heal = 300. HP restored = 0. Shield = 300.

[Yamete]

Succor generates enmity, right? So if a PLD pulls a boss with shieldlob from distance (which generates a little enmity), in my opinion and experience, 'succor' generates more enmity than 'shieldlob', whiping the group.

[Kyomih]

Or in other words - overhealing counts 100% to actual hp healed when it comes to the adlo/succor shields.
That is the reason precasting succor is a good idea.

It only creates enmity when it hits - not when the shield gets used up.

[Yamete]

thanks, that's clear to me now

[Sinaloa]

Thx for correcting me

Now I don't have to worry about shield will overwriting each other. (Succor/Aldo)
and if it's true that Aldo crit will x4 shield's hp, I'll looking forward to stack Crit in my gear.
So Mind > Crit > Deter/Spell Speed/Piety, right?

but how about if Aldo shield had 1k hp but it droped to 100hp, will new Aldo cast or Succor Shield replace the 100hp Shield?

ps.hate to 1000 character per post restriction, but why I feel that other ppl's posts have more than 1000char ???

The stronger shield overwrites the weak shield. Succor can overwrite aqo but it rarly happens (equipped sch crits an succ over an unequipped sch´s aqo)
As far as I recognized it the base shielding value depends which will overwrite and which not. e.g. I´ve seen noncrits overwrite noncrits if the heal was higher. Due to this crits will allmost allways overwrite noncrits.

Crits are at a 1.5 multiplicator so crit aquo shields are at 3x higher not 4 times.

Your statevaluation seems to be about right allthough I (personally) rate piety higher.

[YuriRamona]

It's a much better idea to Adloquium the main tank before the pull. There are few fights where the party will take damage before the tank does. There are, however, plenty of fights where a tank may be cleaved for large damage before everyone is in position. Having to drop a big cure on a tank who hasn't completed their full enmity combo can be very bad.

Succor generates enmity, right? So if a PLD pulls a boss with shieldlob from distance (which generates a little enmity), in my opinion and experience, 'succor' generates more enmity than 'shieldlob', whiping the group.

This is very important. Succor will generate enmity equivalent to 150 potency times the number of party members, while Adloquium is only 300 potency on one target. So, if you happen to land a Succor after the pull (which has happened more times than I can count), you may be in for the exact kind of pain you were trying to prevent. Adloquium, on the other hand, will generate between half to a quarter of the enmity that Succor will.