Titan Extreme mode - no melee allowed. Thx SE.

[Raestloz]

I'm confused.

If no melee is allowed, who casts melee limit break? That's where the damage is

[Sedant]

Destroyed Titan Ex yesterday for some guildies that had not cleared it yet. Our comp for dps was DRG, MNK, MNK, BLM. Not sure what problem your having because this fight was cake with that makeup.

[NyneAlexander]

MNKS > SMN > DRG > BARD > BLM when it comes to DPS if all are equally geared and skilled against Titan Ex. This is just a stupid group that don't count for much. Heck, fastest Titan Ex kill I ever had, pug one shotted had a MNK and DRG doing crazy dmg.

Nope. Its people that know how to play their class and know the fight > people that don't.

I spent all weekend trying to parse myself in titan EX on BLM to keep up with drg/mnk. I can do it pretty reliably now. 220-ish dps sustained.

[NeoAmon]

Nope. Its people that know how to play their class and know the fight > people that don't.

I spent all weekend trying to parse myself in titan EX on BLM to keep up with drg/mnk. I can do it pretty reliably now. 220-ish dps sustained.

Soz, which part of "If all are equally geared and skilled against Titan Ex" did you miss?

Plus, 200-220 is da norm kind sir ^^. MNKs can crush it with mush less efforts than BLM in this fight. Same as Twintania, SMNs can't be touched. We have our fights, and other have theirs. I parse 375+ in Garuda Ex for example while Melee can only hope to dodge wicked wheel.

[NyneAlexander]

because your "greater than" chain is false.

[NeoAmon]

because your "greater than" chain is false.

Nope it is not ^^. However, matters of your word against mine I guess unless I can somehow invite the same MNK, SMN & Bard I do Titan farm with to your group .

Edit: Plus you are not making scene any more. What would be the correct chain be then? BLM > MNK/DRG/SMN in Titan Ex? cause that would absolute troll/lie/joke. Of course players whom are experinced will parse better than less experienced players. However, when they are all experienced, and skilled, my chain is not far from reality.

[Elendil_Voronda]

if you're going to make a "THX SE" thread about X modes, at least pick the right one

garuda X is the fight to ignore all melee, and i'm not sure i'd ever want more than one on ifrit although i'm sure it works

...but titan? melee are great on that fight

Exactly this, actually Titan X is one of the few fights melees are not gimped.

[Velhart]

Funny, I thought the magic DPS were being avoided in Titan. Titan EX and Ifrit EX are actually fights that are melee friendly.

[EasymodeX]

Umm, Dragoons are the hands-down best DPS class on Titan Ex in the game. The fight shits on Monks due to RNG GL3 drops from gaols and from a few phase transitions. Edit: And despite that, Monks should still perform better than range DPS on the fight.

BLMs have basically the worst DPS on Titan Ex of any class.

For Titan Ex, it's basically DRG > BRD=SMN=MNK(rng) > BLM.


For Ifrit, melee are completely fine in general. Ifrit is 70% a healer fight, and 20% a tank fight. The DPS mechanics on Ifrit are incredibly easy -- but again worst on BLMs.

For Ifrit, I'd say: DRG=SMN > BRD > MNK=BLM.

Monks are excellent on the nail phase, but poor on full fight DPS because Ifrit has so many mandatory GL3 drops, it's pretty nuts (edit: a Monk that's done Ifrit like 20 times could optimize it to a point where they exceed Bards, though, I would guess). SMNs and BRDs are also strong on nails due to multi-dotting.


Garuda is the only fight where there's any meaningful anti-melee mechanics of the Ex primals, and that fight is trivial if the melee are in any way aware of the timing on wicked wheel.

[NyneAlexander]

It honestly comes down to the individual player learning how to maximize their damage in a particular fight. For instance: the common practice vs. titan ex is to stack on his butt. So immediately, all dps run to stack on his butt. In reality, you have to be stacked on his butt for plumes, which don't happen immediately. So, as a caster, you can get two long casts off and tele to the dps before he does plumes. As a BLM, this puts you into your fire chain between plumes and the next landslide, giving you enough time to finish the chain with a swiftcast flare/convert fire > bliz III before he jumps, helping to push the next phase before he does a 2nd MB on the tank.

But if that caster had run straight to titans butt, he would not have had the time to get the long cast spells up before it was time to run around, thus throwing off their dps for the rest of that phase. Or they'd have to use swiftcast for T3 or F3 and wouldn't have it for flare.