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Titan ex was killed at release day, and it took BG 2,5 Months to make World´s First Twintania Kill.....Same difficulty...yeah!

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Titan ex was killed at release day, and it took BG 2,5 Months to make World´s First Twintania Kill.....Same difficulty...yeah!

Coil turns 1-5 will be nerfed and become available on DF at the same time, probably in patch 2.2 when the new turns are introduced.
From what I gathered from Yoshi-P's comments, they're never going to actually nerf the content, but instead buff the players using the Echo buff you see during quests when you fail them and then retry. It gives a noticable HP/ability buff.
So the content itself isn't likely to change but you'll be stronger attempting it even before new gear is taken into account.
I don't see a reason not to. It's a hell of a lot easier than the extreme modes.
Yes, and the fact that almost every elite FC killed Twintania within a day of it being patched isn't a thing.



It's the echo buff, not nerf. I don't think many will have the patience of wiping to mechanics when there's a new tier of content with stronger items being bought from vendors, though.
They should put a reduced difficulty version on DF. Something that would be manageable by a pickup group with level 80 gear loot drops. A lot of other MMORPGs have multiple difficulties of each dungeon, already.
And while they're at it they could also add a harder, non-DF Crystal Tower with level 95-100 loot since I would love to see the fights when they're actually challenging.
When 2.2 comes out and Turns 1-5 are casualized.
They're going to have to nerf/change some of the mechanics in order for casual players to advance.From what I gathered from Yoshi-P's comments, they're never going to actually nerf the content, but instead buff the players using the Echo buff you see during quests when you fail them and then retry. It gives a noticable HP/ability buff.
So the content itself isn't likely to change but you'll be stronger attempting it even before new gear is taken into account.
Turn 2 comes to mind. Having a well coordinated team is a must and you're not going to find that with duty finder.


Hopefully never. But "thanks" for yet another "Coil in DF" thread. We really need more, you know? Like... 3 per day.
"Absurdity is the only reality."
~Frank Zappa
I don't really understand this excuse about DF pugs not being able to do high level content. What I've read here so far:
1.DF pugs can't do high level content.
2.DF pugs (aka "casuals") shouldn't be allowed to until something better is released.
Neither of these arguments is legitimate. High level content already gets completed regularly using the DF, and just because some people here might feel their "elite status" threatened if coil is made more accessible is no reason why it shouldn't be.
Barring technical issues, coil/hydra/chimera should all be included in the DF.
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