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    Quote Originally Posted by KHShadowrunner View Post
    See, having now leveled a DD (BLM), Tank (PLD), and Healer (WHM), I've found those 'cases' to be less and less frequent. The higher up in content you go, the more often being raised is just a faster ticket to more repairs, and wasted MP. I mean, as others have said, if you die in titan it's 90% of the time over, especially before heart. In KB, the guaranteed tick damage has put more people at double digit numbers before the first heal, just silly. This goes for other fights as well, Hydra seems to like to randomly put DPS down after they've been raised. We had a good laugh at a healer during an ifrit run whom was swiftcast + raised -7- times before we won. But would I say that all those raises were for victory? not really.

    To answer the first question, I would say no. I would say that the mechanics can be hard, but they can be beaten, practice hard and you'll get it. I wouldn't outright tell them 'Sorry JimBo, You're not doing your job and you are failing everyone as a whole'.
    Actually, I do Titan donation runs and people dying before Heart (while it rarely occurs, everyone knows the fight backwards and forwards, but everyone gets the occasional lag spike) doesn't have any noticable impact to us. Insta rez whenever, accept rez as soon as plumes appear on the ground. You always have 3-4 GCDs (depending on phase) before stomps. More than enough time to get them sorted.

    And that's the difference: No swiftcast (In your own words) If you die in Titan 90% of the time it's over. With swiftcast, it's a minor inconvenience.

    Yes, KB has unavoidable AOE floor damage, but hard raise followed by insta-cast cure 2 and they're fine (especially with 5s invulnerability now) or insta cast raise followed by other healer insta casting Cure 2 and you're good again.

    Honestly, I don't think I could think up better examples of how SC is useful than those you posited about how it isn't.


    Quote Originally Posted by KHShadowrunner View Post
    I wouldn't outright tell them 'Sorry JimBo, You're not doing your job and you are failing everyone as a whole'.
    What if they refuse to move out of fire, as long as it doesn't one-shot them they can say "I'm doing DPS, that's my job. Moving out of fire lowers my DPS. Healer's job is to heal me"

    It may not seem it to you, but the argument that you shouldn't do something because it's somebody else's role to make it so that you don't need to do it is the same across both scenarios. Now, the DPS is of course being more unreasonable, but it's only a matter of degree.
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    Last edited by Aegis; 12-30-2013 at 09:19 PM.