So the "no BRD" shouts have begun, thanks Yoshi P

[Ryios]

Brds are still needed for the mana buff etc. But we take 1 now instead of 2. Which is fine imo. Everyone was playing bard because they were OP which is why groups took 2. Now that groups want 1 brd instead of 2, people should reroll and balance out the classes better.

Prior to 2.1 I saw 2 brds for every non brd.... Now I see more smn's and blm's, people actually taking melee for a change etc.. These are nice to see changes imo.

[tOnni3]

I was also a little concern on the changes at the first place.
but i found out Bard still good dps in mobile fight like ultima, i always being next target when MT or tanks died.
But in static fight like T4, Mnk is a clear winner.

For them giving Heal LB on bard as dps role, dunno what SE was thinking but it help sometime when a healer or both are down.
Plus we got other 4 classes dps LB already, and they doing thier job well.
So i prefer having heal LB.

But completely changed RoD is awful. Although WAR got this ability but it is quite different in usage.
Bard's RoD used in occassionally multi target dmg reduction but WAR's SP is single tatget but can keep debuff up on entire fight.
They shd only nerf RoD to 5% and give WAR's one for like 5-8%.

[Radkat]

So bard is not overpowered now?
*Gasp*
The injustice!

[MMONSTER]

At Op, deal with it or change jobs.
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That was my point, I would have started with a different job and not wasted my myths/time trying to buff up a job they wanted to be a support class, why not split the class and give 2 job choices like they did arcanist, 1 for support, and maybe ranger for dps...oh wait, that would make too much sense

[MMONSTER]

So bard is not overpowered now?
*Gasp*
The injustice!

BRD was never OP, lol

[PArcher]

Wait...you mean that people are only looking for maybe 1 BRD instead of always having two, just like every other class now?

I mean, it hasn't occurred to you that maybe these groups already have one BRD and don't want to stack them anymore?

[reality_check]

Bard gets one spot in 8 man parties instead of two now? Seems balanced to me.

[EdwinLi]

At least 1 Bard is needed in a group to help the Mages and Healers with their MP or Damage rate.

As of now we probably won't see 2 Archer Jobs in a group as often anymore until SE releases Archer's 2nd job.

[Reiterpallasch]

BRD was never OP. A good <any other class> could always beat a good BRD. BRD however is very easy to play, so a bad player would play BRD decently, and jobs like DRG or MNK poorly. Which of course, made the BRD seem OP when they really weren't.

Still useful, you can use less accuracy gear with a brd in the party.

The main issue with this is that in order for it to be used effectively, you would need 100% uptime on it. The duration needs to either be extended, the TP requirement lowered, or both. The other issue being that groups would need to gear in a way that allows them to actually utilize it to begin with, which means you're now reliant on a BRD which you may or may not always have.

[Karnyboy]

This is why I think the OP is a little daft. Bards and Archers are mobile DPS, you can DPS anywhere, anytime and within reason non-stop. You have minimal (if any cast bars) you're not affected by range, your dps is constant. All within a reasonable amount, your over all skill damage might have been adjusted, but I have yet to see any problem with Bard DPS, I still see them doing quite well in dungeons/raids.