Point of new Hard Mode Dungeons?

[Black91CRX]

I'm never doing WP or AK again outside of roulette.

[TychoCelchu]

I enjoy the new ones. I think they're fun. Also, in a few weeks, when a lot of people have really learned them, they'll be easy. Honestly only really had trouble with Copperbell, but after a few runs through it, it's not so tough anymore.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Effort vs reward for new dungeons is lacking. Up the gil amount or something. Otherwise I doubt people will do more than the daily hard roulette and go back to farming AK and WP.

IMO this update is phail in many ways.

Haukke Manor is not that hard, and it gives more seals. I bet with a party of people you know you could do it just as fast as a WP run. All the mobs seem to have low HP.

Tank has to stun, or anyone with stun needs to stun the succubi when they see the ability demonize. You stop the wailer from becoming a demon. Blm aoes the mobs to death. Everything dies so fast in there, there's almost no reason not to pull by the bulk like wp and burn them down.

[Nova_Dresden]

- Higher Myth rewards
- Gear from AK was moved to the new dungeons (AK now drops WP gear as well) along with a new ilvl 60 set of equipment
- Tonberry races got old
- Increase in difficulty for players outgearing WP and AK and complaining they were too easy
- They aren't WP or AK

All I want to know is where the slime and demon brick pets went and why don't Allagan coins drop from chests anymore?

[Xenobius]

Let's see...

Considering that Philo tomes are much easier to obtain at level 50 now due to low level and story roulettes (not to mention Treasure Hunting chests that contain philo items for crafting), getting your ilvl 70 gear is easy enough to skip the ilvl 55/ilvl 60 stuff almost entirely. And with current level of difficulty, none of the new dungeons are viable for those who just reached level 50 - players in class AF are a liability in there.

So I guess all that work they put into these "new" dungeons only goes as far as providing an alternative for raid-geared people to grind, i.e. more of "let's be done with this boring stuff and forget it" content. Yay.

[Alkimi]

Haukke Manor is not that hard, and it gives more seals. I bet with a party of people you know you could do it just as fast as a WP run. All the mobs seem to have low HP.

True this. We've only actually done it once, but we cleared in 24 mins our first time. I'm sure we could get that a lot lower.

[Seryl199]

I think haukke can be a legitimate farm. Since it gives 50 myth, clearing it in 20 minutes makes it more profitable per run than your average 15 minute wp. Getting a group to do this may take a little time since the dungeon is new and a bit challenging, and chances are wp will be more reliable simply because it's easier, but there are at least other choices to consider now

[Leaf_Dragoon]

Ya, the only thing i don''t like is that they are a bit to difficult to just drop il60 gear, especially since its hard me to get a reliable group farm the gear for vanity.

[TurnBased]

ditto. Hauke Manor can be finished in a decent amount of time. My myth runs are now a combination of duty roulette, Hauke HM and the occasional WP Speed Run

[saber_alter]

They do...if you have a group that can finish them...

give it a week or two and that won't be a problem.