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  1. #91
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    Davionx's Avatar
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    Davion Crismorn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Gear progression for an instanced set fight with equal numbers on either side should have the same stats from gear. The deciding factor should be group comp. Playing ability and knowledge of the various classes. Gear progression in an open world pve environment can and should have gear progression as the gear flow can be challenged through pvp means. Not hard
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  2. #92
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    Darkshade's Avatar
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    Shade Hikari
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    No, this isn't 2004 anymore. Gear should NEVER be the deciding factor in PVP, if it is, you need to disable PVP until it's changed.

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  3. #93
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    Shiyo Kozuki
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    Leviathan
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    I can't believe people are defending PVP being gearbased and not purely skill based. Am I living in an alternative universe?
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  4. #94
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    Lloyd Inhert
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    You're correct OP but sadly you forgot to put a trigger warning in your post and mentioned "WoW" so your thread automatically derailed and any hope of rational discussion was lost.
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  5. #95
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    Zahra Dubs
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    I can't believe people are defending PVP being gearbased and not purely skill based. Am I living in an alternative universe?
    People are very passionate about their gear crutch.
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  6. #96
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    Buster Posey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    I can't believe people are defending PVP being gearbased and not purely skill based. Am I living in an alternative universe?

    1) Some players like to see progression in gear even if it's pvp.

    2) Players will all end up the with the same gear eventually.

    Plenty of mmos have some sort of pvp gear progression. Just because WoW does it doesn't mean every game should copy.

    The problem with FFXIV's pvp is that it's simply not fun. Takes too long to start the match, no respawn, cc fest, chasing player around while watching your melee abilities fail over and over.
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    Last edited by Doo; 12-21-2013 at 08:09 AM.

  7. #97
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    NuggetJack3d's Avatar
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    Neirth Enirae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    I can't believe people are defending PVP being gearbased and not purely skill based. Am I living in an alternative universe?
    don't worry brah, these forums are filled with SE White Knights Galore.
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  8. #98
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    Tenku's Avatar
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    Tenku Kibo
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 50
    PVP gear progression is fine if they freakin made it so that solo queues are never placed against premades. They have the damn system in place, I'm not sure why they don't complete it.
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  9. #99
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    Kage Bunsetsu
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Last time I checked doing what every other mmorpg does tends to end you in f2p land. Followed by a slow and painful death of the game. Hey maybe just maybe let's try to not do what every other mmorpg is doing.... Thanks!
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  10. #100
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    Leshya Tesorthene
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    Leviathan
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    Ninja Lv 60
    It's rather disheartening to queue to a level 30 PVP match as a level 38 and see the opposing team in full Vanya or like level gear. Don't think pure level sync will be able to help much in that situation. And there goes the arguement of getting Item Level 55 gear too.
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