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  1. #101
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    ninthfantasy's Avatar
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    I'm not a hardcore player and I've cleared all the HM, currently working on ExM. My guild and I take a few hours out to try out the fights. Spent too much time trying to clear it? Take a break and do it tomorrow. That doesn't require you to be hardcore. As far as I know it's not the "main" main story... I've been following the dialogue and it doesn't seem to be... more just like a "Meanwhile, the beast tribes..." kind of thing.
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  2. #102
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    Saori Kobayashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by KraggyKor View Post
    There's the proof.

    SE are making Hard and Extreme modes part of the main story so only hardcore players capable of defeating the hardest content in the game will be able to continue the main story.

    So for the majority of players who will never beat Titan HM or beyond the Main Story ended with Praetorium.

    Time to look for another game it seems.
    As I see you never seem to play through the storyline. First of all the extreme primals are no part of either the story line neither of the relic quest. They were once in 1.0 a part of the relic quest. Not anymore in 2.0. What you might mean are the hard primals.
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  3. #103
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    Well now that Extreme is out we can assume it is not part of the Main Story quest because Extreme Primals have its own storyline with each extreme primal quest having relevent story plots for the Main Story that people will miss out if they skip Extreme Primals and its quests.

    Extreme storyline serves as a Side-story relevent to the Main Story similar to Binding Coil story covering Bahamut fate and Allagan Secrets serving to be a prologue for a future plan Main Story plot with Bahamut and Crystal Tower Story being a prologue for the future battle with Nero and how he obtained [Spoiler block] Weapon before we see it in the future Main Storyline.

    Extreme Primal Story is covering the rise of the Ascian's influence over the Primals and how they are becoming even stronger than people thought originally. This is a foreshadowing to a Future Main Storyline point which is most likely discovering more ancient secrets of the Primals and Allagan civilization.

    Also complete the Extreme Primal Quest Chain rewards players with 3 tokens which can be traded for ilvl 90 weapons that are in the Token shop in Toll.

    As of now seems SE is having the Hardcore and Endgame contents as Prologues for Future Storyline Plots for their Story.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 12-21-2013 at 02:14 AM.

  4. #104
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    Rowan Lauron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rightchaus View Post
    Lol people use terms casuals and hardcores. Hardcore doesn't mean you're pro in this context. It means all you do is play ffxiv all day everyday. Casuals just have limited game play time. Being a casual player doesn't make you a bad player.
    I personally prefer the term "Casual Elite". Basically means you can log in, clear content in your limited play time and make progress.

    IMO that's more hardcore than the "hardcore". Seldomly play and still clearing content.
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    Last edited by RowanLauron; 12-21-2013 at 02:34 AM. Reason: Spelling

  5. #105
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    Isn't good king moogles the only msq primal after the hm Titan, Garuda, ifrit? I thought the extremes had a seperatly quest.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by KraggyKor View Post
    Time to look for another game it seems.
    Have fun playing Candy Crush.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinth View Post
    Have fun playing Candy Crush.
    Or, World of Warcraft, where you don't miss a single bit of lore even if you can't do the hardest content. Nor have to wait months to see it.

    The best road for casuals that play for the story/lore is simply unsub, come back in 2.2, complete 2.1 content, unsub, and so on. Or, as OP said, just move on.
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    Last edited by Ri_ri; 12-21-2013 at 03:22 AM.

  8. #108
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    WoW also gives you better gear for beating hard mode dungeons than they do for beating easy ones. Apparently that's unacceptable here lol.
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    I thought the extremes had a seperatly quest.
    Yes Extreme does have a seperate story quest but the Extreme Primal Quest is also part of the Main story since it covers a small piece of the Ascian's plans which is foreshadowed in 2.0 Main Story ending and 2.1 Main Story ending.

    However, this is only a small part of the Story and most likely will be covered through a quick dialogue later in the Main Story explaining how the Ascians are increasing the Primal's Powers and how did they obtain this kind of knowledge but with 2.1 Main storyline we can lower our guesses down to a few assumptions.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    Or, World of Warcraft, where you don't miss a single bit of lore even if you can't do the hardest content. Nor have to wait months to see it.

    The best road for casuals that play for the story/lore is simply unsub, come back in 2.2, complete 2.1 content, unsub, and so on. Or, as OP said, just move on.
    So Ice Crown Citadel with the fall of the Lich King was easily accessible by everyone before the nerf? Or Illidan? Okay. The heaviest part of Warcraft's stories were in the dungeons/raids and occasional progress in stories through quests.
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