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  1. #11
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    Silly post but i'll reply anyway, taking away our levels is punishing those that have stuck with the game and continue to try and impove themselves. Taking a way gil again punishing us for being loyal to the game its silly to do a roll back forcing every back to a weaker/poorer state. Taking gil out of the economy is a good thing and to do that they could easily add a high level dungeon that costs gil to enter now the high level players will go in and do this giving the new players time to level up and collect gil. Once the economy is more stable SE can then lower the gil cost (similar to what they did with dynamis going from 1m to 500k and limbus 50k to 25k) making it easier for the newer players to enter.

    Yoshi P has stated he wouldn't do a roll back or reboot of characters, and thinking that its an easy fix is just folly.
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    Aria Placida
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    Meh, it's entirely possible to do drastic changes without a character wipe, though. Hell, WoW's done one with every expansion, it seems like.
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    Zedo Gains
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    Rollback just because they're changing the system? I don't get it lol. If anything rollbacks should be for when there is a massive exploit that breaks the game (ie someone found a way to obtain cap gil or millions of SP in a matter of hours).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimmo View Post
    Sorry if its already been mentioned before, i searched the last few pages in the forums but didnt find anything on this subject.

    My question is does anybody here feel that rollbacks (with ranks and money) are needed?

    I ask because it just seems as though so many people have ranked a bunch of jobs to r50 and have earned so much money in so little time (not even a year). This is an advantage that many players have earned with their time, but i cant help but feel that once a new system is implemented that maybe this is something that needs to be looked at. Then again, maybe some people can suggest reasons as to why its not needed.

    Thanks to everyone for replying

    i think the people with the biggest bank accounts are the VERY obvious RMT groups... So getting rid of them is the most important thing. The few rich high lvl won't really matter.

    If i join an mmo that is 2 years old i perhaps cant be as rich as the guy playing from day 1, but i can have more fun (since more content) and might even feel as if it never ends since i have a lot in front of me and a lot of challenges.
    I think the people with all lvl 50 and a lot of money will be the people quitting anyways sooner or later (not all ofc) since they played everythign to the max and they will consume every bit of content within 2 days (unless SE changes this mmo significantly from easy-mode to challenging and rewarding, which i doubt)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anty View Post
    i think the people with the biggest bank accounts are the VERY obvious RMT groups... So getting rid of them is the most important thing. The few rich high lvl won't really matter.

    If i join an mmo that is 2 years old i perhaps cant be as rich as the guy playing from day 1, but i can have more fun (since more content) and might even feel as if it never ends since i have a lot in front of me and a lot of challenges.
    I think the people with all lvl 50 and a lot of money will be the people quitting anyways sooner or later (not all ofc) since they played everythign to the max and they will consume every bit of content within 2 days (unless SE changes this mmo significantly from easy-mode to challenging and rewarding, which i doubt)
    just a note....not all rich people are rmt because not all botters are rmt and not all rich people are botters. Sure, there is a general correlation between them all, but it is not direct so while 1 does imply the other, it does not ensure it. Keep that in mind.
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    not gonna happen
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    Gil isn't a problem in the game, we're just stuck with a high number economy. I know loads of people who have or are near 100mil gil, it's not a lot of money. It just looks it because it's a big number. They do need to up the current cap from 999,999,999 however as people will be reaching it before long.

    Anyway rolling back anything would be a fast way to kill FFXIV. The playerbase would drop to 0 over night.
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    Zedo Gains
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    Gil isn't a problem in the game, we're just stuck with a high number economy. I know loads of people who have or are near 100mil gil, it's not a lot of money. It just looks it because it's a big number. They do need to up the current cap from 999,999,999 however as people will be reaching it before long.

    Anyway rolling back anything would be a fast way to kill FFXIV. The playerbase would drop to 0 over night.
    Gil is a problem when there are several people on my server with cap gil and they control the market because of it. One guy hit cap gil soon after the november patch nerf on gil rewards from leves. Not saying it won't happen again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimmo View Post
    lol, wtf did i start.

    Im not here saying that we should get roll backs. I just feel that the whole freakin game is almost being rebuilt from scratch. The combat system is going to change and the crafting needs changing (IMO). I just dont know if the new developers have in mind what the old developers did. Maybe he wants to get rid of certain jobs or skills, maybe he wants to make the ranking system different. A thought is that if this game is going to change so much, maybe some people thought that characters would be affected too. This is not something i want..its actually something i fear and i just wanted your opinion on it
    Ha.. always have in mind a lot Trolls here

    I see your point tho and i think i know what you are afraid of. But let me say something.. Yoshi said that SE NEVER will delete any of the Gamers Data. No matter what they are changing in the Game. They are building up on the existing Game. The can change a lot, but they wont touch the Gamers Data.
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    Silly question to ask here, it's like asking a rich man if they should take all his money away to feed the starving. Never gonna get anyone to agree to it on here, if it turned out to be something that scared off newcomers or returnees they might consider it but I think the game design itself will mean it's not really needed.

    They have/will make leveling really really easy and gil of very little concern. It's always been touted as a casual MMO and so it makes sense to make these things easy to attain for newbies, people with lots of gil and levels will be very little better off come PS3 release, it's in Squares intrest to make sure of it.

    Anyway rolling back anything would be a fast way to kill FFXIV. The playerbase would drop to 0 over night.
    The playerbase the game has right now is as good as 0 anyway, the numbers the game has in no way can sustain it. It needs a massive injection of new players to even break even.
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