PvP Initial Impressions.

[Fyreus]

Sometimes you gotta 'squat n fly'. If you're the one hauling ass and doing healing, that means someone has their backs turned to take damage. When i started playing WHM i'd aero as i'd run which did some decent damage and especially on leves that were +4 so i can imagine the translation in here and i suspect that healers will be the guys to do the worst damage in the ring. That being said this kinda justifies the holy nerf and with cross class abilities we may see even more shady DD healers in the near future depending on PvP abilities/buffs/debuffs (haven't seen 'em all yet).

Just pray Heal Team Six doesn't become the norm.

[Zer0mr]

Just pray Heal Team Six doesn't become the norm.

Made me LOL at work. Good one.

[Dyne_Fellpool]

lol @ pvp in FF.

Does not belong imo

[Shinkyo]

Just went through my first PVP fight as WAR.
Funny how people just ignored me and I had free access to the healer for the entire fight and eventually killed it.
Sucking in the caster with Holmgang and going all out on DPS if quite enjoyable...
Came out #1 on the fight in terms of damage

[Cabalabob]

It's sad that ffxi did PvP better than this.. Tanks could actually tank in that. They changed the effect of provoke when used on a player to lock their attention on the user for a certain amount of time. In this game the tanks are not there to tank. Everyone just runs around happy slapping each other, it's not fun or very tactical. I just went in with a DF group and won but can't say I'm enjoying it so far.

[Lentulus]

I feel the ability to use raise kind of hurts the arena feel. I had 4 kills and still lost a game against a white and summoner with our single "raise" casting job.

[Maqaqa]

Its like GW1 pvp, it plays like GW1 pvp.
Mind you this is a good thing, GW1 got arena PVP right.
I hope we gonna get 8vs8 soon.

[Fyreus]

Not gonna lie: 2 healer teams, sleepga, and sprint 2.0 needs an adjustment. Most of the time it's monkey in the middle combined with some teams in constant sprint and schs who don't know when to lay down and die.

[BadRNG]

No idea what I should be doing as tank. Do crap damage, no gap closer or slow, and stun's DR is way harsher than sleep or bind. I've tried protecting clothies by stunning chasers/using cover on melee trains, but it doesn't seem to do much in the long run.


Chasing around healer with sprint is the most frustrating thing ever. If you somehow manage to hit them with the constant "out of range" errors while being on top of them, you can't out damage their heals. Hell even with Storm's Eye debuff they can heal to full with a swiftcast Cure II or simple regen ticks outheal your damage. Or they are sch with infinite mana and lustraste spam. Or you finally get them low but by then your CC dr is up and you're bound/sleeped again while they heal up behind the corner.

Being a bit negative and will probably get some l2play responses, but that's why I ask, what exactly are tanks supposed to be doing here? Should I swap out my mix of i90 gear for the crafted 55pvp stuff? Does morale really make that much of a difference on tank's damage? Buffing our defense won't really change much since we are usually last to be targeted and die anyway. Most effective thing I've been able to do thus far is take out pets, it seems to really throw off some SMN/SCHs and their HP/defense is low enough that you can kill them relatively quick even as tank.

[Exrage]

Warriors are useless once you've used Holmgang.
Paladin are useful for running interference. Turns out stuns with no cooldowns are fun, and so are the other control effects.

... Yeah, because the 50% reduction to healing with Storm's Eye is useless in a PVP fight. You sacrifice interference for increased damage and the ability to stun MID combo to cure lock a WHM. Totally useless.

Sleep is bullshit. People are sleeping entire teams and then blowing one person up at a time.

First PVP ability you should get is this sweet little "remove any negative effect" called purify- takes a 30 second sleep into a 15 second if you're not smart enough to chase the healer around the wall. You should also not run together in a pack of 4 and get slept by a single black mage.

Some food for thought on your first impression.