Do people really favor an FFXI grindfest format?

[blythe]

lol, it's a grind either way. However,

Assembling a pick-up EXP party, choosing an appropriate camp, figuring out and adjusting your roles in the party so that you don't die and max EXP/hour

> (or more fun than)

Getting 8 random people together to do the same damn leves, multiple times especially if people have x2, with everyone spamming attacks and heals with no challenge whatsoever

[Kiote]

Despite what most people would say i can pretty much guarantee the grind itself is irrelevant. People really just want an easy way to get into a party.

[MeowyWowie]

Despite what most people would say i can pretty much guarantee the grind itself is irrelevant. People really just want an easy way to get into a party.

I disagree. Leves are incredibly boring for a lot of us. Though for others, exp PTs can be boring as well. The ease of getting a party is part of it, but only a very small part.

[Mack]

You make it sound like such an endeavour to copy-and-paste a mob and change it's names and stats.

They probably just implemented new mobs because the ones in game already were either in the wrong place or were in the right place but of an inappropriate rank.

That's not what I meant at all but always nice to have the opinion of a smart ass. I meant there's enough mobs to make quests around them, its just stupid creating new mobs for the quests.

[Burn]

Personally I rather they would have went the questing way like WoW, Blizzard did a good job with making you see the world. You serve a purpose in each zone, each zone had a story going on or some conflict to solve. In WoW there was always a different path to go, unless you leveled 5-10 different chars you could almost always take a different route to leveling. In WoW I had a lot of fun leveling up, seeing the different zones and stories that came with them. Leveling in WoW was an epic experience because you always find yourself in new places, you're actually learning about the world as you go on.

FFXIV just lacks epicness, I still don't know much about the game world other than the empire is basically evil. There is nothing fun about leveling at all. What people don't realize about the FFXI leveling system was that you traveled the world, getting to camps was a dangerous affair. I think FFXIV lacks the epicness, its not the pace of leveling its the fun thats had while doing it.

[CoolBlitz]

Yeah, SE everybody is so sick of your leves system. I prefer we have our FFXI grinding and seeking for group system back.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

umm you guys CHOOSE to do leve by yourselves. Because they are not "efficient" for sp in a party set up. Did you guys ever thing that sometimes your want for efficiency is making the game not fun? You guys think leveling is to fast in 1-20, and to slow in 40-50. Most curves are set up like that ffxi was. You guys can have fun if you tried? Yet your looking to SE to make it fun. Which isn't gonna happen. All they are doing is improving the game, not making it more fun. You guys make your own fun in mmo.

I'm made my own enjoyment in ffxiv and I'm having fun. I barely do leves and perfer doing them with others. But I'm waiting for people to make up from their self created nightmares.
Jackdaniels wrote : " The hardest part about FFXIV is organizing a group of people to have the same 8 leves at the same time every cycle."

This is another player made issue. You do not need people to have the same leve, point was to do comination of different leve to keep them going beyond the 8 leve mark.

[Demacia]

umm you guys CHOOSE to do leve by yourselves. Because they are not "efficient" for sp in a party set up. Did you guys ever thing that sometimes your want for efficiency is making the game not fun? You guys think leveling is to fast in 1-20, and to slow in 40-50. Most curves are set up like that ffxi was. You guys can have fun if you tried? Yet your looking to SE to make it fun. Which isn't gonna happen. All they are doing is improving the game, not making it more fun. You guys make your own fun in mmo.

I'm made my own enjoyment in ffxiv and I'm having fun. I barely do leves and perfer doing them with others. But I'm waiting for people to make up from their self created nightmares.
Jackdaniels wrote : " The hardest part about FFXIV is organizing a group of people to have the same 8 leves at the same time every cycle."

This is another player made issue. You do not need people to have the same leve, point was to do comination of different leve to keep them going beyond the 8 leve mark.

You shouldn't have to "make your own enjoyment" in a video game.

[Rentahamster]

You shouldn't have to "make your own enjoyment" in a video game.

Not in a single player game. But this is a good goal for the developers to strive for in an MMO.

You're never going to be able to pump out enough in-house content to satiate everyone.

[Rowyne]

In 2011 the average player expects multiple ways of leveling, including grinding in party, chaining dungeons, questing in solo, questing in a small group and public questing in a large open group.

It's not a matter of what's your favorite way, or what is the most efficient way, it's a matter of having all of them available.

Well said.

No matter how you level, it's a grind. The best thing is to give people a choice of ways to do it so you disguise that grind behind something that's enjoyable.