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  1. #671
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    KV-1's Avatar
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    Imbrial Osis
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalW View Post
    People who had lots of money from 1.0 made even more when 2.0 came out. They were the ones who could easily buy the philo items to make the craftable i70 gear, which was VERY profitable. So the result is that a minority of people holds huge amounts of gil while the majority has way less.
    I agree completely with your first statement. I'm a new player on a legacy server, right now I have about 7mil but most of that I made early on in the game and before the prices of philo stuff plummted. As I said in another post, people who made money pre 2.0 and people who made money before the philo price drop are pretty set, but anyone trying to make money *now* is going to make substantially less so these prices for plots that were inflated from older players make housing just totally out of reach unless you are in a huge FC or you play 10+ hours a day.
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  2. #672
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    LoLo's Avatar
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    Lolo Landerlu
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by KV-1 View Post
    I know legacy server and non-legacy server houses are not the same. That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

    My point is that on legacy servers you have people who came into 2.0 loaded and/or took advantage of the AH early on and are now sitting on hundreds of millions of gil and inflating the prices of housing.
    no one came into 2.0 loaded because a large chunk of our gil was removed. I had 3 million gil before 2.0 and I walked into 2.0 with only 300k. Why do you keep trying to find ways to blame legacy people? Blame the devs if you don't like the way the game is, not players that havn't done anything but try to enjoy the game the best they can. And I'm not even legacy, I refused to pay for services I wasn't going to be using so no gobbie mount and no legacy chocobo for me, but I am not even mad. lol
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  3. #673
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    Fumamyena's Avatar
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    Johnny Blaze
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Why does everyone in this game want things handed to them for next to nothing. I cannot afford a house for my FC at this point in time but now I have a goal to work towards. I worked very hard to earn my Gil and will now work harder to make more gil to afford the housing features. Stop whining and go make money in the game. It is a RP game after all and lets face it, not everyone should be able to afford a home. That's why there are inn's across the realm. As to Yoshi's comment about the new users on Legacy servers, sorry about your luck, the world was labeled legacy when you created a character on it.
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  5. #674
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    AmnesiaHaze's Avatar
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    Amnesiahaze Conjurer
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuripa View Post
    Why the hell did you add FC housing before personal? It is so very silly and leaving a lot of people waiting 3-6 months to experience housing. Very badly implemented IMO.
    very badly is a understatement , its the worst possible way and a example to all games how to not introduce new features, tease people for months with it , then release it but make it out of reach for most , like that people are just pissed of and not introducing house at all would be smarter ...
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  6. #675
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    TheReverendRex's Avatar
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    Noni Kade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    If the initial price of land was easily within the means of wealthy players, one can envision all available plots of land being snatched up immediately, leaving other players—even those possessing the necessary gil—unable to purchase land for an extended period of time. Seeking to avoid this, we made the difficult decision to go forward with the pricing scheme we presented, aware that many players would be unable to afford housing for a while.
    In what world does this make sense? how about you simply limit each player account to owning only 1 plot of land. A FC leader will have to make the choice to have either a personal house or a company house.
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  7. #676
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    LoLo's Avatar
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    Lolo Landerlu
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by lebirath View Post
    oh ok.. yea my crafter friends make good gil like that.. im the cul of the group.. gonna work another so i can help c gil.
    that said make u wonder if selling stuff is gonna become harder, bc ppl r gonna be more careful with spending now to save for that house
    nope I don't see selling stuff becoming harder because after every update they release new items to craft that will be sold on the market and come on.... houses need to be decorated... if a rich FC can buy a house, I'm sure they have gil left over if they are doing coils and crystal tower, etc. Also they made food less of a pain to use so people will be using food more often.
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  8. #677
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    Sayura_'s Avatar
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    Sayura Ava
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheReverendRex View Post
    In what world does this make sense? how about you simply limit each player account to owning only 1 plot of land. A FC leader will have to make the choice to have either a personal house or a company house.
    Exactly. Though I think the leader should get to have 1 FC house and 1 personal house.

    I think they're smart enough to know they could have just limited each person to 1 house and made housing affordable but the reality is they don't have the server infrastructure to handle that many instances of housing.
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  9. #678
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    Lomaru Rikimaru
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Seinenstrife View Post
    I'm not the type to complain about things that I have no control over, so I'll simply say this. I'm in a Free Company with 4 real life friends. I think I'll get 1 more friend on in January so that's 6 people in my FC. I want the best I can get so that's 100 million for the largest on Goblin. I don't think I'll be seeing it anytime soon. I won't give up of course, but wow. I don't even have an estimate of how long it's gonna take. I'm on Titan HM and I have 250k. So my 1st step is to get 1 million. Then do that 99 more times. Well not literally because the other 5 members will help out, but you get my point. Anyways, like I said. Can't change it so no use complaining. Time for work lol!
    Hmm, your FC only have 6 people, but you want to have the large one? Your journey will be long and perilous my friend
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  10. #679
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Please understand that while we will be adding servers and expanding housing areas as soon as we can, it is simply physically impossible for us to accomplish this easily, in a matter of one or two weeks.
    You have had months, you have been plugging the housing system to us for months and months.

    What it boils down to is that there has been a big screw up somewhere.
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  11. #680
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    BreathlessTao's Avatar
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Well, thanks Yoshi-san for your time to explain your point of view.

    I still don't think it makes any sense though. To start with: all plots snatched up by the rich? Like, you mean, there's no way to restrict buying plots when the FC the player belongs to already has one? Because, in my opinion, that would be the easiest and most straight-forward way to prevent that. If that's so, then I don't see the reason to worry; if it isn't, well... something must've gone wrong at the drawing board there. Furthermore: it's nice that you see how many rich people there are in each world and how big their wealth exactly is. But you should look at the other end too, because there are those who can't make money. And the way things are now, it feels like the poor end of the scale is simply being ignored. Obviously, those who've already piled up insane amounts of gil will have no problem enlarging their wealth even more, while those who couldn't - well, they aren't helped by this arrangement at all, because it's still out of question for them to even get close to catching up.

    I understand nobody wants several dozens of housing instances right away, but I don't think this problem has been tackled the right way. Besides, when personal housing is introduced, it's gonna have to happen anyway, regardless of any promise of much cheaper prices.
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