An Open Letter to Yoshida-san: Please Slice One Zero Off the Housing Prices

[jebali]

I love how they did the housing it is something from some fox news world of crazy.
So for those defending this let me put it in a way maybe you will understand.
so they make a new raid and will show you videos of it for months then add it BUT in order to do it you need to find keys that are dropped once a day. But you will need 100 keys to do the raid. how is this not bait and switch. the same as showing Yoshi buy a house for 900k in the video then making the prices 20X this for the land it is on.

[MsQuiltALot]

OK, I've not read every post, but enough to get a good feeling for how things are shaping up.

I'm on one of the "cheap" servers, and the pricing is still way out of line. The pricing justification is the influx of RMT that S-E feels has imbalanced the game. They say there is too much money on the servers and THAT is why housing prices are so high! The (supposedly) massive amount of gil held by a few (and likely acquired illegally) is not that important in the scheme of things. Those people will find a way to get the house and more gil. They simply don't care about the rest of the players on their server. I've seen it happen in other MMOs where a wealthy few have to buy themselves the best of everything and be "cool".

What IS important is the amount of gil in the hands of the average player who can only play a couple of hours after work and on weekends. The EARNINGS of an average non-crafting player are the numbers they have to look at. (cont.)

[MsQuiltALot]

Crafting on the Japanese servers must be held in far greater esteem than it is on North American servers. Small FCs of 10-15 ACTIVE players are lucky if they have one serious crafter - and that crafter seems to be the only one capable of raising any decent gil. In chatting with players, I find that most RESENT doing anything REPETITIVE. That means they resent crafting, gathering, AND grinding instances night after night just to raise a few gil. The typical player I talk to wants variety and a rewarding atmosphere. I've talked to many GMs and some have no interest in housing and others do, but can't get their FC motivated to contribute. I do know a couple who might be able to pull it off, but then I don't know what their source of gil is.
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[travenkirkwall]

YOSHI-San please lower the price or i fear the sub rate will fall fast. Dont wait for the sub rate to fall before you change it or it will be too late i know youed hate to be the blamed for the 2nd fall of FF 14 but relay heed my words or it will happen and you will be looking at this message as it falls down.I am a 1.0 player from the vary first beta ive played countless mmos but i stuck with this one i believed in this game and now i see this the american dream was buying a home the fc dream was to buy a fc home and you put it so far out of reach you all but crush that dream im not going to unsub but i will tell you removing one 0 is better than removing 1.0 players and new please yoshida this is what the mass wants i place to chill with there fc hang out its about friends having a place to call there own. so please yoshida remove a 0 and thank you for taking the time to read this.

[Ayasu]

[MsQuiltALot]

Here's a little different combination of fixes that might work - keep in mind that ALL of them should be implemented, not just one:

1. Leave the top housing prices the way they are for now and just make the SMALL house a bit less expensive. Large houses should be expensive, and a long term goal. But a small (meddium) house should be priced to be within reach of a small FC within a matter of weeks.
2. Setup an AUTO-BONUS system that puts a percent (on top) of all money earned by members into the FC bank. The % can grow depending on the FC rank. For example, a level 1 FC only get 1%, level 8 gets 8%, etc. Having members complete certain activities, etc. can give a boost to the bonus. This gives a BASE for the FC to grow donations on top of.
3. Calculate realistic average player income and make sure that an FC with 8-10 active members can actually buy a house without having to focus JUST on grinding.
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[Mihael_Longclaw]

I love how they did the housing it is something from some fox news world of crazy.
So for those defending this let me put it in a way maybe you will understand.
so they make a new raid and will show you videos of it for months then add it BUT in order to do it you need to find keys that are dropped once a day. But you will need 100 keys to do the raid. how is this not bait and switch. the same as showing Yoshi buy a house for 900k in the video then making the prices 20X this for the land it is on.

I actually kinda like the key idea, so it's a bad example, lol

The biggest thing is, it's cosmetic mostly, mostly casual, yet it has the most hardcore requirements in the game.

The people who DO want it, can't afford it most likely, and the people who CAN afford might not even want it.

Know your audience guys.

[Grizzybehr]

HOUSING! 2.1!! LOOK FORWARD TO IT!!!

"We estimate that by doing this for around three months you should be able to purchase land."

Ok, so you want us to enjoy it in 2.2 then?

Dumb.

[MsQuiltALot]

4. Let FC's UPGRADE their house and piece of land easily - and lose a modest amount - not the whole thing. e.g. they can pay a real estate agent to relist it and it becomes blank property again, BUT they get a discount on the next piece of land up (and the basic house) and can reuse furnishings, lawn items, etc. in their new house. This lets an FC grow their house as they grow their FC, and not have to start all over again.

Sorry for the long multi-part post. I too am very disappointed the way that housing was implemented, but hopefully things will settle down and work out... I'm not going to get too upset until I see how the rest of the game develops.

[Raydeus]

I'll say it again, the plots of land should've been attainable only through other means. From Company points pooled together from all members of the guild, to tasks, dailies and other activities that involved ACTUALLY PLAYING THE DAMN GAME instead of the markets. Even if it took months to achieve. Then they could've had furniture and consumables be the gil sink afterwards.

That is a real goal, not making gil and competing with RMT for it like dogs just for the land.

The retarded way this is implemented it will just fuel RMT, and leave out any FC that is not focused on making gil or that doesn't demand gil from it's members. And I'm sure many people will switch companies just to be in one that can afford to buy a big house, not to mention any of those FC will probably ask for a minimum amount of gil before they let anyone in.

Is that really what Yoshi wants this game to be like? Either way I just hope Individual housing isn't as f'ed up as this.