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  1. #11
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    Raminax's Avatar
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 92
    Some people simply enjoy going for the flavour of the month and feeling powerful.

    Others show love/loyalty to their Coil statics or FCs to such a degree they don't want to drag down the group with an (theoretically) inferior class, especially if they know they can play said class to the same level of mastery.

    A third mythical group might see buffs/nerfs as a reason to try out something new.

    Some reasons I can think of the top of my head.
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  2. #12
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    Bella Chia
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    It's hillarious SCH people cares so much about how WHM wanna go SCH
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  3. #13
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    Matathias Aenomalus
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I understand those reasons, but honestly they make it sound as though whm will not longer be taken for raids. Whm/Sch will still be the preferred duo, because stacking Sch/Sch will be pointless given that our shields don't stack, virus can't be rotated, our AoE heal (whispering dawn) is on cool down and its power is tied to rouse, which is also on cooldown. To be honest whm/whm is still better than sch/sch, so I could see still more spots for whm, than for sch, it is just that whm/sch is the ideal.So whm still will always have a spot and if they can't get a scholar then another whm can fill the spot just fine. The only downside now to dual whm/whm is the lb change, which not only affects them but all the class stacking. Therefore the sky is falling mentality should come to an end. White mages are not broken and now totally inferior. I agree the Lustrate buff was kind of icing on the cake if you will, not necessary but definitely nice. Now that the AI for the fairys are being fixed, not buffed like everyone seems to think, we can do a better job at what we do. I do think cureIII needs a fix, and something else added to whm to make them a bit more involved, seeing as healing seems to bore people, why they chose a healing class full knowing what it entailed is beyond me sometimes. I feel if they had fixed cureIII appropriately then they would still be the best group raid healer. Right now though they are only marginally ahead in that spot.

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  4. #14
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    Matathias Aenomalus
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I don't care so much that people want to play scholar if it was for a reason that wasn't silly and nearsighted. The patch hasn't even dropped yet and people are saying their class is broken. They have yet to try alternative methods to work with their class yet they are ready to jump ship and move on the bandwagon. When all i was hearing was "whm/whm is the way to go," I didn't go and level a whm. I didn't stop playing my class even when Eos was a derpwad and did whatever the hell she wished and wasted useful cooldowns that I would prefer to use when they were needed. I stuck with my class learned how to play them better and have enjoyed doing so.

    Reminds me of when I played WoW and my class was the ret pally, the bane of everyone and everything including those that played them lol. Their dps was marginal at best, they had skills that went with spell damage instead of ap, and others that went with ap. We had to stack spell damage, ap, crit, accuracy, etc. They were hell to work with but I loved it because when you got it down people noticed. Ret pallies were a utility class that were difficult to play and I loved it. I didn't jump off and go a play another class I stuck with my class, got the weapon switch so I could do minor heals if the crap hit the fan, and enjoyed the depth and complexity they brought to the table.

    I hope they fix cureIII and bring more depth do your class, that is what my hopes are. Also, those that stick around long enough to see those changes will be awarded most with a feeling of pride having stuck with a class they originally wanted to play to begin with. But jump ship now and you'll be no different than most who are bandwagon rerollers, have fun on the fate circuit.

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  5. #15
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    Bella Chia
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    dual SCH can do many things more than just stacking shied tho
    I have done contents other than coil with dual SCH already and I thinks ppl give too little credit to dual SCH

    welp, gonna try soon anyway
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  6. #16
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenomaly View Post
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    People can level what they want ,when they want. So they think sch will be better. So? Them leveling another class is not a crime or an act of shame. They'll lvl ,try it out, see if they like it, and then stay with it for a while or do something different. Who cares really.
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  7. #17
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    Matathias Aenomalus
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    As i already stated it isn't that I don't hear what is being voiced, but the majority of voicers are incorrect, the class is not broken, it is and still will be desired. I understand they can try it out, this is how SE made it, one character all classes etc. My point is they are doing it for a reason that makes little sense. Then in a few months we'll hear "I can't get groups as a scholar there are too many because they are just too powerful, nerf them NEEEERFFFFF THEMMMMM." LOL
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  8. #18
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    Ishiene Phye
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    Sargatanas
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    I don't know if I will or will not switch. I'm highly leaning towards Scholar right now. I like to heal in general. I enjoy it on both classes. I just have so much invested into Whitemage that it is going to take a little for me to catch up.

    Here is my reason for switching. People can play one way. To play their favorite job. Or people can play another to be the best at what they do. I'm playing a role as healer. Not a whitemage in particular. I want to be the best healer I can be.
    Most boss fights really require a single tank and use plenty of attacks that can be dodged or avoided and not take any damage. Once you have the people who can do this regularly you only really have to worry about the tank. You cannot deny how powerful scholars are in single target healing. I also won't deny that it still will be sch/whm going, but I might just let another whitemage take that role now.

    You ask the question "Why?" followed by "I'm not trolling" and then say "I don't care so much that people want to play scholar if it was for a reason that wasn't silly and nearsighted." so why are you asking exactly if you don't care what people have to say? Could it be fear that "Omgosh, sch is op. They need nerfs now." is inevitable and you want people to stay on their jobs so this doesn't happen to you?

    Why do we even have skills like esuna/leeches? I don't think I can use that skill at all during coil. It doesn't work. Sure there are some minor boss fights that you can use it on, but how long do you stay in there? It seems as though every new boss who puts status effects on you won't be able to be removed. Just like twintania's debuff during conflags. Scholars can easily heal through this. Even when you're in the conflag a fairy will continue to heal. As much as I enjoy playing whitemage I still want to be the best healer I can be. I may decide to stay, but at the current pace of things are going. I don't know. It just kinda makes sense for me to become the best I can to switch to other classes. Is that wrong?
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  9. #19
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    Kahn Meido
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Well honestly Whm in comparison to SCH is really quite boring, but that's more of a design flaw. To me it seems like devs just ran out of ideas. Crap proc based combo system, infused to my 3 heals, one of which is good and the latter to remain terrible even after this change. Both medicas look the same with the exception of a little extra sparkly on 2 you can barely notice. No spectacular graphic while casting...just green swirls...on...everything. It's like they didnt even try when you look at the diversity of casting and spell animations (and abilities) a sch has. That's one of my main beefs...yea ill live with these changes...until wildstar come out...then i doubt i will care....no way a few hard primals and some kinda hard dungeons (if youre undergeared) are going to be able to captivate my attention for 6 more months. PvP may for a while but meh, I wasnt overly impressed with what I've seen. Add in the lacking detail with generally unexciting job animation...yea yawn.
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  10. #20
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    Matathias Aenomalus
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Honestly if a nerf happens I wont be jumping on the "next best thing." I wasn't doing that in the beginning with scholar having such a high learning curve, didn't do it while the AI sucked, had no plans to do so seeing everyone with a carby running around, so why would I do so if a nerf happens? I would just learn how to play with my class that I chose with a desire to learn and play a more intricate play-style. Boy being on the other side and hearing scholars OP, kind of interesting I have to say. I don't deny that scholars are superb single target healers, and with the AI changes they will be capable party healers, the head party healer still goes to whm. Even with the changes whm will be the party healer.I do care but the responses have been largely unsubstantiated, seeing as how the patch hasn't even come out yet, so whms are not broken. Scholars now being "OP" and the go to healer, shows how nearsighted people were to begin with because they didn't want to look past class difficulties and learn the job. So why not stop for a sec, take a breather and wait till the patch drops, once White Mages become the joke and no one wants them and raids refuse to take them along (being sarcastic) then we can start littering the forums with doom gloom and unsubscribe threads. * rends garments, runs into streets and beats his breast* Why GOD why?

    Aeno
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