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  1. #1
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    Aenomaly's Avatar
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    Matathias Aenomalus
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Why don't people stick with the healer they started with?

    Honestly, I am not saying this to troll people, but just reading the last day or so all the doom and gloom threads is really a joke. Seriously, if a couple minor changes, and they are minor, is what causes you to switch a class then were you really that into the class? Did you roll a healer simply for the faster queues, which is negligible really with the influx of healers.

    When I started as a scholar, first I was turned off by the sheer amount. Wasn't going to level a scholar was going to do a conj, but I wanted one so bad, that the amount of carbys roaming limsa didn't turn me off and I did and am happy to have done so. Even in the beginning when everyone was discounting Scholars as sub optimal, bring two whms, they can't really heal, their pets suck etc etc etc. I stuck with it and am happy to have done so.

    People are screaming about all the buffs scholars got this patch, and i kind of roll my eyes *rolls eyes*, because really it was one buff and one nerf. The AI of the pet should have been fixed long ago, so to me that isn't a buff, but merely a fix. To not be able to really control our pets went against the class as a whole. SO NO THIS IS NOT A BUFF, BUT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED NEAR THE BEGINNING BUT DUE TO ALL THE OTHER ISSUES IT WAS PUT ON BACK BURNER. But hey at least we are finally getting it. The change to Virus sucks I know, but it only hurts stacking Sch, which is what SE doesn't want, which is another reason to stick with your class through thick and thin. The buff, is a nice buff, and I lurves my Lustrate so I am happy.

    Now the few changes that were given to whm are sad but they are minor for the most part. Some consider the Medica II change a buff, I do not, others see it as a nerf. The hit to holy, merely 40 potency, not a big deal in the least, and will only hit speed runs, which is a tiny part of the game. Dps'ing shouldn't be what you are up in arms about, yes it breaks the monotony sometimes of healing, but personally i enjoy healing. So yes it is kind of sad to have a hit to a spell you liked to use during a speed run because you are bored, but it isn't the end of the class or the world. Seriously if you are that bored stop doing speed runs and run some other instances do something different. Maybe you are more bored with doing WP for the nth time and not simply healing. Furthermore if you are bored with healing level a DPS class, or just maybe healing isn't for you.

    IMO you should stick with a class, even through buffs and nerfs, shows a devotion to your class, plus you can learn to work around and with the changes that comes with it, and in the end you will be a better player. But in all seriousness it isn't that big a deal and certainly not the end of the world. Change your classes if you will but remember with the anti stacking mentality of SE it may not be in your best interest, the servers, your fc etc etc etc.

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    Last edited by Aenomaly; 12-16-2013 at 02:23 AM. Reason: char limit


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    Sulwyn Caliope
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Thank you so much for saying this. None of the changes made were game breaking in any way and are easy to work around. It's absolutely ridiculous to act like it's the end of the world and that now people have no choice but to reroll. If you were a bard and got hit by 50 million nerfs then maybe I could understand a bit better but the nerfs to WHM are minuscule in comparison and should lead to minor gameplay tweaks. Plus, if you're really a good player, you'd find a way around this and improve your own gameplay instead of whining that you can only play your class in one way and one way only.
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    Alphard Alshua
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    Of course this would be coming from scholars lmao

    How about they nerf Eos Whispering Dawn and we call it a day? Our main raid healing spell which was also part of mana management btw is now worse than your pets AOE. I'm sure you wouldn't have any complaints about that!
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    Banjomissen Mismis
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    Lustrate might be buffed by 5% but I would rather avoid the Virus change and then keep Lustrate as it is.

    It's clear you don't play a SCH when you compare Whispering Dawn to Medica II. WD" is not all that it's made up to be... I would rather keep Virus as it is and have WD nerfed.

    And the WHM "nerfs"... well... aren't they more ajustments than "nerfs"? Medica II potency is lowered but it ticks for 15secs longer. Should end up being the same in the end... You just don't spam it like you are doing now. Medica II and 2x Medica and you are good.
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    Matathias Aenomalus
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    Considering that whispering dawn is blown or animated out of by trying to micro manage it, i doubt we would feel it too much LOL. Maybe after 2.1 we'll cry the sky is falling possibly if this happens and it is game breaking to where people no longer want a sch. also, seeing as for the longest time the comments have been "Scholars, why bring them when i can bring two whms," we just see things for what they are. The whms got hit with a minor dps nerf, because dps is what whms are known for amiright, and a nerf to medII. I agreed the hit to medII was a nerf, but are you guys no longer going to be brought to raids because of it, I highly doubt it. Plus they almost made it so that stacking sch is pointless, virus will be a one person job now, no rotating.Basically the one scholar/smn will be on virus duty. Also, shields do not stack,and will never stack because of SEs stance on mulitple classes in the same group. Along with the change they just made towards LBs, trust me you will have a spot in all groups. You getting invited or not will be based on skill, just as it was before, and not the minor changes SE just brought to the table. Seriously the hit to smn is worse than what you got, they had thunder taken, virus nerfed, bane (kind of a fix/stealth nerf) worded correctly, plus only one useful pet which no longer affects thunder because they can't use the skill.

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    Last edited by Aenomaly; 12-16-2013 at 03:06 AM. Reason: char limit


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    Sulwyn Caliope
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I rarely use whispering dawn because I have a WHM partner who is good at raid healing and still will be despite this nerf so a nerf to WD wouldn't affect me at all. Try again~

    Please explain to me in great detail and with lots of relevant examples as to why suddenly WHMs will suck more than SCHs in every possible way. Yes WHMs will be slightly worse in raid healing after 2.1 than they are currently but my point is that they are always going to be better at that than SCHs and therefore will ALWAYS be needed no matter the content (even if we ignore the nerf to LB generation through stacking classes). Your class is NOT dead in the water.
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    Kydat Kendayar
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    Quote Originally Posted by vpc View Post
    Of course this would be coming from scholars lmao

    How about they nerf Eos Whispering Dawn and we call it a day? Our main raid healing spell which was also part of mana management btw is now worse than your pets AOE. I'm sure you wouldn't have any complaints about that!
    We don't.

    Selene is better.
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  8. #8
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    Matathias Aenomalus
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    Selene is only better now because whispering dawn cant be controlled and is derped at the beginning of any pull basically. I personally can't wait till the patch so Eos becomes my go to pet for all things, and Selene is the minor one for utility. Right not i hardly touch Eos, and when i do she isn't controlled in any sense of the word I just let her do her thing, which for the most part isn't that bad, but i want to control her heals and aoe heals.

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    Olyver West
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    Mateus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    I wouldn't care if Whispering Dawn and Lustrate were -both- nerfed... okay yes I would care, but I would never drop SCH. I chose my class based on my love of its mechanics. It will always be my main, and no matter the changes I'll be showing up to battle with my grimoire and feathered quill.

    But I understand people wanting to change it up. See, I'm a person that actually likes playing the underdog. If a class is considered slightly less effective but can still be great with player skill I'm very drawn to it, because I like to feel that I rock at something that many avoid. It's natural that some people are the opposite and want to flock to whatever is considered 'the best' even if the differences are marginal or situational.

    So yeah all of this actually has me looking at WHM a little more. I'd never main it, but I might like to gear it up and give people a show.

    P.S. I tend to use Selene anyhow, lol
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    Calyanare Vendaurel
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    I'm only a scholar because it worked out better that way for my Coil static. I really don't like the class and wish I could go back to being a full-time WHM, nerfs or not. Kthxbai.
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