Man you're lucky I've been trying to find a group for raptors for like ever and can never find one =x.When FF14 was first released 1-20 was so much longer then it is now but then again we don't use the proc system anymore
also 1-20 isn't made to be stuck in i wouldn't complain about it though since i like there most updated SP system it made me actually play nowive been grinding raptors most the week 40-47 grinding through surplus in 4days
I'm not a troll I'm just the voice of truth :P
thats because the servers look like that
http://photos.igougo.com/images/p165...ndboarding.jpg
I agree on 1-20 being slower but not really on 40-50 faster, thats already pretty easy of a grind unless its fieldcraft. 1-10 is crazy though, and can be done in less than 45 mins.
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I was going to post a thread about missing the old sp curve line but thought it'd be a flame fest. I miss when having your subs leveled meant SOMETHING.
Now anyone can do it in a few days.


Agreed. 1-20ish is way too fast and the final levels are ungodly slow.


Once again a comment that shows you know Nothing about this game...It is fine imo. If you want slower leveling just do not do guild leves. If you want faster leveling do guild leve parties (w/o the linking and quiting) You guys skrewed yourselves with "unwriten rules".
I've been grinding my gathering classes by just "farming" And i do not level fast. I just did levels to get me to 10 so I had the skills. I've mostly been farming grade 1.
Lots of complaints on stuff you guys can "fix" yourselves by chamging how /where to level.
DOL has no party based options so you have no choice BUT to level it solo.



I agree that 1-20 goes way too fast. I remember in FFXI, 1-20 was where you learned your job so that you would be ready to party with others by the time you got to Qufim. I remember running around in Ghelsba killing Orcs until level 10 and then going to Valkurm and realizing that pugs drill your face open with no remorse.
Those beginning levels are important because they:
1) Taught you your job.
2) Introduced you to the game and the beastmen
3) Taught you to be careful with certain types of monsters.
In FFXIV it's more like:
1) Equip weapon. Do 2 levels and reach level 12 already. What did you learn about your class? Nothing? That's probably because you didn't have time during your level to attach your new abilities to your action bar and learn them a bit. It might also be because you went from 1-12 in under 20 minutes.
2) You don't even see a Goblin until probably 30+ so there's no real introduction of a threat in the game. I miss Orcs, and the Yagudo. They felt dangerous. It was something to watch out for because they could literally be right behind you at any given moment if you didn't watch yourself.
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I think its fine, theres nothing between 1-20 so dont span it out. 20 is where quests start, and the fast pace hooks in all the new people as they'll feel like they're getting somewhere quick.
Especially when the level cap goes up.



quests shouldn't be STARTING at level 20. They should be starting the second you start the game. They should be what leads you into knowing your new world. You shouldn't have to be level 20 before you get that. Granted, it takes like 2 hours, but still. For new-comers of the game, they're going to look at it be like "Really? This is ridiculous." 1-20 goes WAY too fast, and everyone knows it. I get that there isn't much to do between those levels, and that's one of the problems, but I'd much rather take a couple days (or a very long day) getting to 20 rather than getting it in a couple hours. Gives you no chance to learn your class effectively enough for parties.
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Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.
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