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  1. #51
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    jomoru's Avatar
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    Arete Sophoi
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieLynch View Post
    Personally I don't see a problem.

    Even if you are a small to medium FC of 40 people, you only need to put in 100K each (unless my math fails me horribly which wouldn't be surprising). If you can't afford that you shouldn't be looking at FC housing in the first place.
    I like how you think 40 is a small FC. Small means something like ten. I've only see a couple that break 100 and only that breaks 400 on my server.
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    Last edited by jomoru; 12-15-2013 at 11:52 AM.

  2. #52
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    Kluya15's Avatar
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    Kluya Heiral
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieLynch View Post
    Personally I don't see a problem.

    Even if you are a small to medium FC of 40 people, you only need to put in 100K each (unless my math fails me horribly which wouldn't be surprising). If you can't afford that you shouldn't be looking at FC housing in the first place.
    Yah that's only 4 million gil. Only 20% of the way to the ghetto of ghettos =P
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  3. #53
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    Sindyr Ashreynason
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    Mateus
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    Well thought out OP. I will once again repeat, in support, that I am incredibly interested in personal housing, but my grip on my gil just tightened with these prices announced. I can't help my FC with their house when I may not be able to afford my own home.

    Creative expression is a vehicle used to enjoyably reach goals, not a long term goal itself. I have never seen any housing feature, in any MMORPG, placed on such a high, inaccessible shelf.

    In a world where RIFT, with its amazing and accessible dimensions, is without subscription fees, this is not the way to go with FFXIV's housing.
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  4. #54
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    King Brohemoth
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieLynch View Post
    Personally I don't see a problem.

    Even if you are a small to medium FC of 40 people, you only need to put in 100K each (unless my math fails me horribly which wouldn't be surprising). If you can't afford that you shouldn't be looking at FC housing in the first place.
    On my server 40 people putting in 100k = not even half the amount of money you'd need for the lowest quality plot of land that holds a one room house (for 40 people...). That's after the price has dropped to the lowest possible amount, which would only happen after 3 months of the plot being unsold. That same amount of people could put in ten times that amount and not even come close to being able to afford the starting price of the lowest quality medium sized plot. They'd be 35 million gil short.
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    Last edited by Miburo; 12-15-2013 at 11:56 AM.

  5. #55
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    Karon Mephisto
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieLynch View Post
    Personally I don't see a problem.

    Even if you are a small to medium FC of 40 people, you only need to put in 100K each. If you can't afford that you shouldn't be looking at FC housing in the first place.
    40 People, in a Room as small as the Inn, with a Limit of 50 Items to place in. So right.. 1 Chair for each of the 40 Members, a couple flowers and the room will burst, since there is not enough room..... <_<

    People need to stop thinking that Small houses are meant to be used by FC's with around 40 Members. Have you actually seen the Size of a Small House from the Inside? With around 12 people it will start looking like a clusterfuck.
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  6. #56
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    Aylis Tessier
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Very well said. These prices are really grossly unfair and impractical and truthfully make no sense, more so just simply because prices are not the same on each server and are greatly increased on Legacy 1.0 servers on top of our previously suffered gil reduction at the start of ARR. Here our FC had dreams of just owning a small house and here we have to pay 25 million? vs 4 Million on the cheapest server block? 25 Million when I know larger FC's with 65+ members that can barely afford a small house? Theirs a problem in this. Please Yoshida, re-evaluate the prices of housing ;_;
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    Last edited by Aylis; 12-15-2013 at 11:56 AM.

  7. #57
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    NovakAlder's Avatar
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    Novak Alder
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    Cerberus
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    YOSHIDA-SAN PREASE!
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  8. #58
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    Jilse Wynden
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    It just dawned on me and I had to laugh out loud thinking about all of the new furniture we will be able to make for the housing we can't afford.
    I was thinking about the people shouting, selling all the furniture that is already available. Even worse, the people who spent millions on them, now unable to afford a house to put them, lol.
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  9. #59
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    Ramesses's Avatar
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    Prince Nuada
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    Diabolos
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    Reaper Lv 70
    +1 to the OP

    Honestly, I think the Dev Team's Eorzean economic calculator must have used 1.0 gil currency circulation numbers to spew out those outrageous prices.
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  10. #60
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    Rukira Michaelis
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    My FC, not including alts, is made of maybe 25-28 strong members. We don't need more than that, and never really had any plans to expand. We have enough people we trust to run content with, and it's small knit enough to not feel intimidated. I think.. a lot of FC are like this. Although some may hold massive amounts of players such as socials and leveling FCs, most people just want a small community they can stick with. Given that, it's still what? 11 mil per person? I know the price will decrease over time, but in the end it's still about 5 mill per.
    Does SE wish to punish smaller groups? Housing is something everyone has been excited for since it's been announced, seems silly that it's pretty much impossible to access. I even remember Yoshi saying that "a player can afford a small house by leveling 1-50". I don't know about you kids, but I certainly didn't get 20 mil. >:V
    Oh well, guess I'll live in my Inn and talk to my plants some more.
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