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    Do not misunderstand, I am not trying to say that people hate the whole game, or to just quit, I am only saying that if one small thing like a raid you can only do once a week causes you such a problem, maybe this one just is not for you.

    You don't need to be able to spam coil to help out your FC, you can split up experienced groups and have them go along with newer players, utilize in game or voice chats to help give pointers, etc. I also don't understand why people think you cannot play your other jobs you have leveled, you can be something different on all 5 turns if you want, you can play as any job you have for quests or anything else in the game. Yes, they say you can play every job, that doesn't mean you are going to be able to get maxed out best gear for all of them instantly. In MMOs you normally choose a job you are best at, and other things come later.
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    And as for the reason why I posted this, is I enjoy reading the forums but am sick of constantly reading about the same thing. I come to the forums to read about information for classes, or where to get a cool item, things like that. Instead I see post after post about the lockout and why it sucks people cant spam coil all week.

    People that come here are the minority of players, especially with it being released on PS3. I want to see interesting game discussion, not complaining because some people can't spam I90 gear for all their jobs. Lets discuss interesting things like items, fates, bosses, etc, and not complain about this lockout! If you can't be patient, then like in XI, this game just probably isn't for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    People that come here are the minority of players...
    Of course the majority of players arent on the forums, but that takes nothing away from the voices of those who do. Each voice on this forum may represent the views of hundreds or thousands of players, regardless of whether or not those players speak up for themselves.

    The view that people on the forums are the "vocal minority" brings with it a connotation of lesser value, when in realistic contrast, the people who speak up on the forums are more like the 'senators' of the player-base. Yes, we differ in views, but our views are the same as those who choose not to speak up. Any company the fails to yield to the feedback of their customers is destined to fail, and that is tried and true fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    Because a business thrives off the income it brings in. By voting with your wallet, you show that a business decision is not in the best interest of it consumers, causing either a change in policy, or a shut down of the game. Any smart business realizes the smarter move and changes policy to meet the demand of its consumers or a suitable middle ground. Or it fails. Ask Microsoft how their Xbox One is doing.

    Why do you think WoW has been running all these years?
    Turning off your sub without complaining is not good 'voting', as it doesn't let the company know for sure why so many people are unsubbing. Maybe they migrated to a new game, maybe they can't afford it anymore because holidays, maybe there's something players think are terribly wrong.
    If the game continues to add content players are unhappy with, even after continuously bringing it up, I'm sure many players will unsub and SE would have a good idea of the reasoning behind it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    You're missing the point completely. What I am saying is that once I finish coil once for the week I am unable to help my FC friends who haven't do the same. Regardless of whether we're in a static or not that makes no difference since you still can't help your friends once locked out. Basically I am forced to pick 7 people out of my entire FC to do the best content in the game with per week. I should be able to help all my friends, not forced to choose 7 of them to help for the entire week.
    If you split 8 experienced members into 8 different groups, you are helping 56 people with coil. You may not personally be in a party helping all of them, but your group is. I personally think the point SE wants is to not let 7 people be holding another persons hand. While that can still happen, they don't want EVERYONE to be doing it, all day long. Not everyone deserves coil gear. They want people to gain experience with groups and learn the fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    I also don't understand why people think you cannot play your other jobs you have leveled, you can be something different on all 5 turns if you want, you can play as any job you have for quests or anything else in the game. Yes, they say you can play every job, that doesn't mean you are going to be able to get maxed out best gear for all of them instantly. In MMOs you normally choose a job you are best at, and other things come later.
    People with a single character utilizing the armory system can only play 1 job per turn per week. People with multiple characters can play that turn on multiple jobs. Considering the armory system is a major component in this game and it costs additional money unless you sub 6 months to even make another character this is not fair. There is more to it than just "getting maxed out best gear" but if you can't comprehend that I don't know how else to explain it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    If you split 8 experienced members into 8 different groups, you are helping 56 people with coil. You may not personally be in a party helping all of them, but your group is. I personally think the point SE wants is to not let 7 people be holding another persons hand. While that can still happen, they don't want EVERYONE to be doing it, all day long. Not everyone deserves coil gear. They want people to gain experience with groups and learn the fights.
    Really? My problem is that I have to choose 7 friends from my FC to play with on a weekly basis and your solution is to stop playing with those 7 friends and play with others instead? Remind me again, how exactly does that solve my problem? Seems like either way I have to tell some friends "sorry, i'm not playing with you this week" in a genre of gaming that revolves almost entirely around playing with other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    And as for the reason why I posted this, is I enjoy reading the forums but am sick of constantly reading about the same thing. I come to the forums to read about information for classes, or where to get a cool item, things like that. Instead I see post after post about the lockout and why it sucks people cant spam coil all week.

    Lets discuss interesting things like items, fates, bosses, etc, and not complain about this lockout! If you can't be patient, then like in XI, this game just probably isn't for you.
    Making a thread complaining that you don't want to see anymore threads that complain is incredibly hypocritical. Feel free to make a thread about FATEs instead if that's really what you so badly want to talk about.

    But if you can't handle complaining, then like all other games, GD is probably not for you.
    I would try reddit or the other subforums, which I see you've already been visiting.
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    Actually I will take your advice, the people on here are just way smarter then I am. I lose.
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    Sorry for wasting your time, is there any way to delete the thread?
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