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    Quote Originally Posted by cotti View Post
    I didn't get how you post the link with the exact information you say you're not aware of.

    Well, it's just how it's informed there. Works, but launcher is a hassle and there are a couple of glitches.
    I just googled it up and provide the link. I didn't read into info provided there. I have not tried it myself so I'm not confident people who try it will not have any issues getting it to work. I have heard of players banned in other MMOs for using wine because their tool flagged it. If you're going to try it and run into problems the ownership is on you.

    Another thing is I don't have info on SteamOS. Is it locked down so you can't install Wine? or will have issues installing wine? or does it come with Wine pre-installed?

    People trying SteamOS tomorrow will be the pioneer for getting it to work.
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    Last edited by Pseudopsia; 12-13-2013 at 01:42 AM.

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    SteamOS is not a typical Linux Distro. It's built to be like a Console, not a PC OS, (AKA Kiosk for those of you in IT) so it's not going to allow you to install anything beyond Steam APPS that were developed/migrated for Linux.

    This includes EVERYTHING Valve has ever released, since they re engineered their games. This is amazing, since they have done testing and found SteamOS to provide 30% better performance on the same exact PC running SteamOS instead of Windows.

    However most other titles will still be Windows only. Sadly, since FF14 is only built for Windows, it will be unavailable on SteamOS.

    This also stops you from installing any other Packages to your SteamOS, such as WINE.

    Now for the serious bad news: Review sites that have had a chance to interview Valve have also criticized the lack of Steam OS allowing the PC to be anything more than a Game Console, which includes Social Media, and Multimedia Playback capabilities. Both of these are non existent on the current platform of SteamOS. This severely limits usage on terms for Streaming game play, or Sharing information.

    Will this be fixed in the future? Time will tell, but IMO this limits Steam OS to being a Niche Beta for some time before it hits to be the Main Stream PC Gamer Console replacement for Windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudopsia View Post
    I just googled it up and provide the link. I didn't read into info provided there.
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    Another thing is I don't have info on SteamOS. Is it locked down so you can't install Wine? or will have issues installing wine? or does it come with Wine pre-installed?

    People trying SteamOS tomorrow will be the pioneer for getting it to work.
    ...I'm roughly at the same spot as the Arch user that added his info on the page. It's somewhat hard to make the launcher work, since it's so flat-out EVIL due to IE dependencies. As of SteamOS, we'll only know tomorrow if there are workarounds needed or not.

    But please, pretty please, read the information before instead of blindingly giving it next time. You could be wrong one of these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cotti View Post
    But please, pretty please, read the information before instead of blindingly giving it next time. You could be wrong one of these days.
    I was 100% confident I provided the right link by skimming the info. I can't be wrong saying I don't know if works or not. That statement is true either way unless I'm lying.
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    Last edited by Pseudopsia; 12-13-2013 at 02:52 AM.

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    The second ARR becomes stable on linux is the second I ditch windows altogether. Such a terrible terrible OS has ruled the roost for way too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZDamned View Post
    SteamOS is not a typical Linux Distro. It's built to be like a Console, not a PC OS, (AKA Kiosk for those of you in IT) so it's not going to allow you to install anything beyond Steam APPS that were developed/migrated for Linux.

    Will this be fixed in the future? Time will tell, but IMO this limits Steam OS to being a Niche Beta for some time before it hits to be the Main Stream PC Gamer Console replacement for Windows.

    And this is why it's a flawed concept from the get go. People that are serious about gaming spend large amount of money on gaming PC's.
    this is for two reasons. they want a better everything over what a console can give, and they want the PC for more then just games.
    steam can't do both of these things so it's fail out of the box.

    Even if they open the kernel up to more than just the game playing aspect, it's never going to be more then just the internet. I don't care
    how many people have tried, there has never been a replacement for MS Office. There is a reason Apple has never tried to replace MS in this
    aspect. When all is said and done, Steam is in competition with the consoles and not MS and Apple. I myself never built my PC's for just gaming.
    If I did that I may as well just by a console.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    I wonder what it has for us gamers? I currently have Windows 8.1 installed, and I don't want to wipe what I currently have just to try this out. However, I am probably going to wait a good while to see how this new OS goes. I wonder how FFXIV: ARR would run on it?
    To me it sounds like it's going to have a lot of incompatibility. Are major hardware companies like nvidia or amd even releasing drivers for this OS? This is the first that I've heard of it and I already have software that isn't compatible with linux so I'll more than likely pass.
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    This is not an OS that you install on your computer. It's the OS that will drive the SteamBox, which is their take on a dedicated console. It' be like trying to install the PS4 OS on your desktop, and wondering why most of your software won't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuichi View Post
    I wont be trying it till I get a Steam box.
    You can just make your own "Steambox" you know.

    That gamepad can be bought seperate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    The SteamOS is releasing tomorrow. Is anyone going to try it out?

    http://www.videogamer.com/news/steam..._tomorrow.html



    I wonder what it has for us gamers? I currently have Windows 8.1 installed, and I don't want to wipe what I currently have just to try this out. However, I am probably going to wait a good while to see how this new OS goes. I wonder how FFXIV: ARR would run on it?
    Install it on a seperate hdd, or a usb stick and boot from said hdd or usb stick.
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