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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    You could do a lot of unique stuff with samurai but making it a tank will probably end up being what just another mitigation tank.
    For the record, all tanks are mitigation tanks.

    Also, SMN/SCH works because it's not a drastic difference in roles. You can turn any of the tank classes into DPS classes by just removing the emnity modifier. You can turn CNJ into a DPS role but it has quite a bit of healer skills (probably a hybrid). The only difficult thing is making any melee class into a healer because, as WoW has shown, melee healers are garbage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnirok View Post
    There was never a "melee" healer in wow unless you count monk somehow and they are awesome.
    Turns out, it was Warhammer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    as WoW has shown, melee healers are garbage.
    There was never a "melee" healer in wow unless you count monk somehow and they are awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    For the record, all tanks are mitigation tanks.
    So WAR as it is right now does mitigate damage in which way? Foresight, which is so awesome i guess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    So WAR as it is right now does mitigate damage in which way? Foresight, which is so awesome i guess?
    It is reactive mitigation in the form of a self heal. It is only effective if you can survive the hit.
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    I like to beg to differ on the changing of the base class suit the role of a job. The lancer wouldn't need changes the soul crystals would add a system of top of the existing moves similar to warrior with wrath and a stance. The class already has a parry buff so building off parry and maybe a counter attack system could change the whole playstyle but never need to change lancer as a whole. Now the skill would be piercing and your auto attack would be slashing i suppose which won't really matter. So I guess the only issue would be what to do with the crystal to weapon equip. Sam would need to be able to equip at least one spear or change the system to force a crystal equip on weapon change. All small problems. I think the big issue would be to make the system interesting and balanced with pld and war would be the issue more so then making a dps interesting.
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    We need true ranger!

    Archer/Bard is great but we need true ranged dps that uses both gun/crossbow/bow just like in FFXI.

    I don't mind having SAM as tank. Holding hate with WS would be awesome. SE seriously need to introduce WS combo burst just like in FFXI.

    Thief would be awesome. It was my main in FFXI.
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    Post 36 might be on to something they are covertly testing with auto weapon swap a with soul gems. Relics as job keyed weapons automatically equips the required gem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    For the record, all tanks are mitigation tanks.

    Also, SMN/SCH works because it's not a drastic difference in roles. You can turn any of the tank classes into DPS classes by just removing the emnity modifier. You can turn CNJ into a DPS role but it has quite a bit of healer skills (probably a hybrid). The only difficult thing is making any melee class into a healer because, as WoW has shown, melee healers are garbage.



    Turns out, it was Warhammer.
    dancer says hi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoeila View Post
    dancer says hi
    Explain to me how Dancer tanked.
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