Are the crafted accessories as viable on WAR as they are PLD?

[Vmage]

Not sure why people are saying its BIS since its been debated forever now and its not really clear.

mostly because there's some confusion over what 'BiS' actually means.

if you see BiS in regards to a tank and think, that must mean the tankiest tank possible (maximum eHP) - allagan/myth accessories are BiS

if you see BiS and think, maximum possible stat totals - melded i70 things

more to the point, twintania has been downed a lot, by a whole lot of tanks wearing less than allagan/myth accessories.. so there's room to wear some dps/hybrid/whatever gear and speed the kill up

...that's not making you a 'tankier' tank though, BiS in that regard anyways, has always been the highest ilvl _of Fending stuff, and likely always will be

whether you're gearing for the highest possible eHP or something else is more of a personal decision though, hence the confusion



tldr - if your goal when gearing is to be harder to kill than anybody else, stay away from melded stuff, you only want the _of fending suffix

if your goal is something else, by all means buy some jewelry

[Gamemako]

Rose Gold jewelry. Much cheaper to meld STR than VIT. Only difference with Gryphonskin is dex, and screw dex. >.<

That's not really the point. DEX is like adding more +parry. It's hard to argue that Gryphonskin are not better on an absolute scale. Additionally, Rose Gold bracelets and rings are not capped on parry, and everything but rings have to be melded with +acc to meet your cap. If you want to sub in some cheaper Rose Gold melds, that's your prerogative, but they aren't really that cheap. Hell, main cost driver is the tome mats; beyond the 200k for the initial craft, you'd be hard-pressed to burn 100k on the grade 3 materia which run between 4k and 8k per on my server.

[Maqaqa]

Rose gold stuff isnt any cheaper than Gryph stuff, they both require the same amount of materials.
It might be cheaper on your server if you buy it from AH but that would be a waste of gil in any case.

Also 45 points of DEX isnt trivial if you care about your parry/block rate, and as a tank you should care.

Btw i estimated losing 5% of my total HP to gain 15%-20% of damage and a tiny amount of eHP (STR/DEX affects parry) by wearing HQ griph over i90 accessories.
Its a very, very good deal. Too good to pass.

[Maqaqa]

tldr - if your goal when gearing is to be harder to kill than anybody else, stay away from melded stuff, you only want the _of fending suffix

if your goal is something else, by all means buy some jewelry

Why not to get BOTH and be versatile? I didnt see anyone suggesting this but its what a good tank should do.
Full VIT gear to offtank T4 and T5 would be a waste of HPs.

[Exstal]

I haven't really compared the rest of the accessories yet; but if you have the money and time Gryphonskin can be used across many classes (DRG/MNK/BRD/WAR/PLD).

edit: Bold and colored is currently the best argument for making a set of HQ Gryphonskin and melding them. More inventory and less time taken to gear up your other Jobs when they hit Lv50.

Stoked for my parry Dragoon!

[Maqaqa]

Stoked for my parry Dragoon!

You are correct. Oddly HQ griph accessories, that are supposed to be DD gear, are only BiS for tanks.
As a DD id get i90 DD gear and ignore crafted stuff without thinking about it twice.

[Grembo]

lol this Gryphonskin BiS poppycock again?

Anyone noticed you only ever see WAR's advocating this? ....or are they LTW's disguised in WAR AF+1?

Don't worry my WAR friends, come next week we'll actually be able to tank things and won't have to waste tome mats/materia on a miniscule increase to STR/DEX to make it look like we're actually capable of contributing to a run.

[Maqaqa]

Yeah because 45 points of STR/DEX is "miniscule"
And lets ignore accuracy and everything else, as it doesnt matter!

[Grembo]

Yeah because 45 points of STR/DEX is "miniscule"

The maths has been done my friend, look it up.

Where are all the vids of WAR MT's on T5 with this uber BiS setup anyway?

[Maqaqa]

Where are all the vids of WAR MT's on T5 with this uber BiS setup anyway?

If anything a gear set to specifically tank TT would be a situational set.
But still, its a moot point, there arent many videos of WARs tanking TT in the first place, no matter the gear.
I will let you wonder why :P
But i agree with you math has been done and anyone can look at the numbers and choose.