To all those ANTI loot lockout people I say this.

[Djeserit]

maybe you cant read.... if you are fully geared in i90 gear wtf would you log in once a week to farm ilvl 80 shit? so youll unsub until the next patch anyway, again, logic fail

Sorry, I have trouble reading derpy posts. Of course you wouldn't set foot in CT if you are fully i90. But:

a) Most people aren't i90 on even 1 class.
b) those that are have at least 7 other classes to i90, most likely sitting in darklight atm

Meaning they have a reason to go into CT.

Since the number of players in that category is such a trivial percentage of the entire playerbase I don't think SE's finances would notice their departure.

To expand on this: Removing loot lockouts on Coil would increase the number of people in said category, which would have a detrimental effect on the game as a whole.

[KraggyKor]

maybe you cant read.... if you are fully geared in i90 gear wtf would you log in once a week to farm ilvl 80 shit? so youll unsub until the next patch anyway, again, logic fail

Since the number of players in that category is such a trivial percentage of the entire playerbase I don't think SE's finances would notice their departure.

[Hik0]

It must be great to be the type of person with no goals whatsoever-- the type of person that lives in a constant state of having nothing they desire to achieve or work towards..

there is a difference between having no goal and being obsessed by loot/reward.

maybe you cant read.... if you are fully geared in i90 gear wtf would you log in once a week to farm ilvl 80 shit? so youll unsub until the next patch anyway, again, logic fail

didn'tyou see how many topic for vanity slot be added ASAP were made?

And I dont think anybody is full 90 on all jobs, without lockout lot of people would have been caped on all job after trial+1month then unsubed until 2.2 if they dont care for vanity set.

[xRitzx]

I feel like crystal tower shouldn't even have a loot lock until 2.2, it was supposed to be in launch. We already lost over 3 months of possible loot...

[Lurkios]

Get over yourself the game isn't built around those who have hours and hours to play the game loot lockouts are there to instill a sense of progression into a game.

Get over yourself, the game does not revolve around you and your limited schedule.

Oh look, it does work both ways. That's cool.

[MrSmiley]

we have all played mmos (well a lot of us) raids aren't all fun after the 4th+ time or so depending on who it is. I see a few major problems with this system

1) No reason to keep raiding after you get your piece of loot. Sure some of us will keep going with our FC/static/whatever but many wont

2) the "make sure you really want it " reasoning is bad. A lot of perfectly useable loot will be destroyed. People may pass on lesser pieces they need in order to attempt to get a bigger piece further in. Only one of them gets it however and now a bunch of gear is left in the trash that could have been used. yet if someone uses their loot on an "insignificant" piece, a big piece no one else needs (or wants because they want something for their own class) gets wasted...wasting useable gear in a lockout dungeon is a terrible idea. (it will also be extreme frustrating to players who can use it and only watch it get discarded)

3) Once again, its like they are going against their own armory system, gearing a tank and dd at the same time so you can swap your needed is only getting worse. You get one piece for one of them.

4) helping gear people through this dungeon won't work. Old free company takes new player, but cant gear him for their level of dungeon because he can only get one piece. In that case, won't they just want to recruit people out of other experienced guilds who they don't have to wait for 2 months+ to gear? Gonna see a lot of recruitment requiring already geared people, more than usual at least.

[IronSoup]

Average of ilvl.90 items you can get per week:
- 1 Coil gear (there is 8 chests and there is 8 players, you should average a drop per week)
- 1 Mythology gear (with 450 Mythos per week, you can easily buy a 375 item and the next week a 495)
- 1 Extreme Primal weapon (that's the maximum you can get by clearing it)

Average of ilvl80 items you can get per week:
- 1 Crystal Tower drop (lockout of 1 loot per week)

So, the toughest items to get are the ilvl80 gears?

I don't have a problem with the lockouts on the highest gears (ilvl90) but making everything past ilvl70 lockout-items is a bit too drastic and leaves no spammable content worth doing (after getting the 450Mythos) unless you are into PvP.

Crystal Tower should have been spammable but there would have been a 2-run cooldown on looting after you get an item (weekly reset would reset the cooldown). That way, people who wants to spam would be able to and it would take at least 180 runs to get everything (that's if you are extremely lucky with the last items).

Anyway, lockouts content and PvP seems to be the model until Patch 2.2... we will just have to deal with it

[lordkabal26]

Huh, you know I just realized if you were trying to get all the sets for vanity it would take roughly seven and a half months assuming you got one piece each week and no change to the loot system in a later patch.

The time frame to get the sets for vanity is exactly why I'm annoyed with the decision to have loot lockouts, a better option for those that want them solely for vanity would be a need/vanity option system. Have the need to get the piece with the stats and triggers lockout on needing a piece of gear, and the vanity option which wouldn't cause a lockout and would give anyone that chose it a level 1 piece with no stats and very little armor (like how racial starting gear is) that can be used in 2.2's vanity system

[NephHalp]

You guys do realize that the lockout didn't keep the content locusts around right? They're already gone. I know of a number of statics which fell apart due to everyone unsubbing until 2.1's out. Instead of grinding coil until they were done gearing and getting bored, they would only log in once a week for coil then log back out. When the only content there is for you takes 40-50 minutes a week you won't stick around.

[Amocoru]

Why do you care how other people want to play the game?

The real reason is they care because they won't be able to gear as fast as other people due to their schedules. This way they don't feel inadequate over their gear and want it to stay this way to refrain from feeling "gimp".