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    Player EmSix's Avatar
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    Em Six
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    Gladiator Lv 80

    Here is what I don't understand about the CT Lockout

    If Crystal Tower gear is supposed to be catch up gear/gear for those who aren't capable of running coil yet to use to be able to run it - Why is a lockout in place?
    How on earth are you supposed to catch up if it takes you 5 (assuming there's only 5 pieces to collect) weeks to do it?
    It simply does not make sense, Crystal Tower was always marketed as an alternative for those incapable of handling Coil yet to use to prepare.

    Going to quote this here, because someone pointed something else out and said it much better than I could.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinth View Post
    True but there needs to be a balance stuck here. We want to level alt jobs but they are useless to us because we cannot gear them. A cap on top-tier gear is acceptable, but capping 2nd and 3rd tier just prevents us from enjoying all of the available jobs. I can easily handle (skill-wise) healing in coil, but I simply cannot acquire the gear for it, as my main job is a DPS. I cannot enjoy the other classes in end-game content, as doing so would require sacrificing progressing my main job. That is the problem.
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    Last edited by EmSix; 12-05-2013 at 09:32 AM.

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    Player Sinth's Avatar
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    Sinth Reborn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 52
    But FFXIV is great, you can level all jobs on one character! (good luck gearing more than 2 a year though, LOL)
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    Haru Degurechaff
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    Pugilist Lv 65
    What I don't understand is......why?
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I was just talking about this with a few friends because I misinterpreted the translation a little, and after doing a little back reading I determined how wrong I was.

    However, I thought it would be cool if instead of CT locking out of the loot pool for the week, it locks out the pool after you acquire a piece of gear. Design the system where it's only possible for a player to lot on one piece of gear per floor/turn/map per week. Just one piece of equipment that they want to get and you can keep running until it drops. Once you get your gear, you're not allowed to see the pool until next week.

    You can put a limit on the "retry count" to say three times per week (15 attempts at each turn/floor assuming 5 floors for CT initially) if you want to prevent people from just constantly running CT, but I don't think that'll be an issue and it'll keep people coming back each week to get that one piece of gear per floor for their mains (and then alts) until they have a decent set of gear.
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    We consume content faster than it can be produced. Lockouts help tremendously in controlling the rate of consumption.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    We consume content faster than it can be produced. Lockouts help tremendously in controlling the rate of consumption.
    If done properly. If it was class/job based, then yes. If it is character based it supports 1 day raid logging and makes people bored and want to quit.
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    Blm - 50
    Drg - 50

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    Player Sinth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    We consume content faster than it can be produced. Lockouts help tremendously in controlling the rate of consumption.
    True but there needs to be a balance stuck here. We want to level alt jobs but they are useless to us because we cannot gear them. A cap on top-tier gear is acceptable, but capping 2nd and 3rd tier just prevents us from enjoying all of the available jobs. I can easily handle (skill-wise) healing in coil, but I simply cannot acquire the gear for it, as my main job is a DPS. I cannot enjoy the other classes in end-game content, as doing so would require sacrificing progressing my main job. That is the problem.
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    Zell Drakk
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinth View Post
    True but there needs to be a balance stuck here. We want to level alt jobs but they are useless to us because we cannot gear them. A cap on top-tier gear is acceptable, but capping 2nd and 3rd tier just prevents us from enjoying all of the available jobs. I can easily handle (skill-wise) healing in coil, but I simply cannot acquire the gear for it, as my main job is a DPS. I cannot enjoy the other classes in end-game content, as doing so would require sacrificing progressing my main job. That is the problem.
    Excellently Stated Sinth....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinth View Post
    True but there needs to be a balance stuck here. We want to level alt jobs but they are useless to us because we cannot gear them. A cap on top-tier gear is acceptable, but capping 2nd and 3rd tier just prevents us from enjoying all of the available jobs. I can easily handle (skill-wise) healing in coil, but I simply cannot acquire the gear for it, as my main job is a DPS. I cannot enjoy the other classes in end-game content, as doing so would require sacrificing progressing my main job. That is the problem.
    100percent right.
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    Blm - 50
    Drg - 50

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    Siorai Aduaidh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    We want to level alt jobs but they are useless to us because we cannot gear them. A cap on top-tier gear is acceptable, but capping 2nd and 3rd tier just prevents us from enjoying all of the available jobs. I can easily handle (skill-wise) healing in coil, but I simply cannot acquire the gear for it, as my main job is a DPS. I cannot enjoy the other classes in end-game content, as doing so would require sacrificing progressing my main job. That is the problem.
    You have two routes for ilvl90 gear. If you are grinding ilvl90 myth gear and then running Coil to replace that same Job's ilvl90 with other ilvl90 gear, you're doing it wrong.

    Use one path for your main job, and the other to outfit your 2nd job.
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    Last edited by Zantetsuken; 12-05-2013 at 09:41 AM.

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