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    M'laiboli Lhea
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Can we please get separate stat allocations for SMN/SCH?

    I know this has been posted before, but I feel like it's important enough to warrant more visibility and some discussion in time for 2.1 which is the only time soon in which we can get SE to make gameplay improvements.

    As we all know, SMN and SCH have the same stat allocations, so anyone who wants to play both classes has to gimp one or the other. And no, Cleric Stance does not fix this problem at all.

    I know that stat allocations are assigned per class so it may a large change to have separate stat allocations for jobs within the current system. However, can't a fix for this be hacked together, for instance, swapping stat allocation for int/mnd depending on which job you are? I really don't want to gimp my main SMN for coil by going 15/15 int/mnd, but I enjoy playing SCH a lot to help out FC mates, random join-in-progresses, etc. The current system defeats the purpose of having one character play all classes because I can't play both classes optimally.
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    15/15, make up the rest with gear. You won't be "gimped" unless you gimp yourself in terms of gear selection since I've seen many "SMN only" and "SCH only" with full allocation do horribly.
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    +15 int is the equivalent of upgrading 2.5 of my ilvl 70 armor pieces to ilvl 90 pieces. It's a pretty big gimping and kind of defeats the point of doing coil to improve gear if I can't even allocate my stat points correctly.
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    Eterno Kalahed
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    That's why it's time they just throw away the all class and job system, which is a left-over of the Tanaka-era and just move to JOB only system, which it already is past level 40.
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    Uh they mentioned a few letters ago that this was intended. You have to choose.
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    Just do loads of fates and by lots of Hymns. Sorted.
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    N'hara Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Uh they mentioned a few letters ago that this was intended. You have to choose.
    Yup. The bonus stats belong to the base class, which in this case is the Arcanist.
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    No. You should have to choose one to focus. That's the trade off for getting 2 jobs for the price of 1.

    That's why it's time they just throw away the all class and job system, which is a left-over of the Tanaka-era and just move to JOB only system, which it already is past level 40.
    It was Yoshida's idea to implement the job system on top of the class system rather than replace it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    No. You should have to choose one to focus. That's the trade off for getting 2 jobs for the price of 1.

    It was Yoshida's idea to implement the job system on top of the class system rather than replace it.
    Can't agree more.
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    Well I disagree when you put such a focus on the fact that you can switch from one role to another then you should not stuck an Arcanist with either SUM or SCH. It goes against the main design idea.

    So I know you'll answer that they said you're supposed to switch form a class to the other, not job, but to me that's not relevant when 95% of the game design is made so you MUST use your Job and not Class to be effective.
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