melee dps buffs + bard nerf = cumulative effect too much?

[OmegaBlack]

Ever heard of "Action speak loader than word" bard if a support/dps. Let's see they cast song check,have use abilites for the party check,there lb raise ppl incase healers go down check,they have also 100% uptime on must mobs check,they have the most cross-class abilties check.. Oh wait that's getting nerf to be on par with the of class/jobs and that is fare. So u lose a few abilities so now u have to work as hard as melee dps to keep your med to low support
dps numbers up there.I say to you bard except the challenge no more easy way out with bard.Please injoy the new content.

Dev if they keep crying about just give then a hard and a dagger and see how great there dps is then when they have to stand in
melee rng.

Also if Archer turned into ranger then i would be crying to cuz they they might be lowing the dps but a rng would go from high dps to mid dps that a Nerf not a mid to low support dps the change would me minimal.

[OmegaBlack]

Meant "Harp and dagger" stupid phone.

[Phai]

Real job [/IMG]

Realy?
U need to find decent ppl to play whit, every good grp only takes 1 brd to coil.
Why u almost make it sound like Brd dont need to move out of crap at all? couse we can press a skill while we move?
I know that u, little toothpick fairy have a realy hard job and Brd is a faceroll to play, tbh maxing out the use of brd isent all just press 1-2-3.. and making max out of brd if they remove Lancer as sub class will be even more of a challange! might be fun even ^^ In coil Brd has some utility that are grp wide and have silence duty from time to time. in 4 man its a faceroll, in coil it takes effort to realy make the most out of brd, not only dps wise. People like u that trash this class makes me think of the naked guys in fates from lvl 15-50..

[Viridiana]

they have also 100% uptime on must mobs check,they have the most cross-class abilties check.. Oh wait that's getting nerf to be on par with the of class/jobs and that is fare.

That's the thing. Even with 100% uptime and the most cooldowns, we still come out towards the bottom tier among damage-dealers. This is just going to push us further behind, especially with the melee getting buffed.

Look, I'll be glad to see BRD stacking go, because I think it was silly to begin with. The only people that ever benefited from it were sub-par players and people having bad nights. That said, I'm not sure that nerfing our already low DPS is the way to fix it.

[Tilgung]

BRD DPS doesn't have to be the highest. It just has to be high enough that stacking BRDs wont cause you to fail DPS checks.

The fact of the matter is, other jobs having higher DPS is irrelevant. BRD does enough to hold its own and brings great utility along with it to occupy half the DPS slots.

[Songkla]

Lets say they keep BRD dps the way it is now. However, they take away your songs, and give them to, lets say MNK. Then take your silence and give it to DRG. I can guarantee that there will be no BRD's in coil. No one cares about BRD dps, its their utility that's important.

[MisakiSatomi]

Bards are supposed to be support with a bit of dps.


Betting on monks doing 2x more dps than a bard next patch...

[Themis]

Also if Archer turned into ranger then i would be crying to cuz they they might be lowing the dps but a rng would go from high dps to mid dps that a Nerf not a mid to low support dps the change would me minimal.

I expect that we will see the same thing as we already have with ACN and SMN and SCH; Archer will be paired with Ranger weapons, which will be on par with other DD weapons (i.e a similar weapon damage raiting), and Bard weapons will remain the weakest to keep their DPS down. Or, it would be the other way around, and Ranger will have it's own weapons like SCH does, which are stronger than the ARC/BRD variations. Either one of these, keeps Ranger a true ranged DD Job, with the others having their own place.

It's also an expectation that, as the level cap increases and Bard gets more songs to choose from, that the damage dealing side of BRD will become a much more secondary thing - perhaps even seeing the removal of the damage penalty to cater to this.

In the long run things are bound to change, and in the meantime, small changes to ensure a balanced play field are also inevitable.

[Nazzo]

Not sure why everyone seems to think both DRG and MNK are getting this 10% DPS increase, when they were specifically talking about DRG at the moment that the 10% increase was brought up during the live letter.

We’ll be making adjustments to recast times for lancer and dragoon, reducing the time in which movement is locked after jumping, and improving the area where dragoons land after jumping. Overall they will be receiving a 10% DPS boost.

The only thing that was said about MNK was:

Monk:
The buff effect of “Greased Lightning” will be increased. In addition, the amount of bonus damage monks will be able to do from behind a target will be increased.

It is doubtful that this will result in a 10% damage increase overall for a MNK who is already playing optimally (i.e: not struggling to maintain GL.) Sounds like the GL 'buff' will be an increase to duration since that's what people have been complaining about. Nobody has been saying MNK's potential DPS is not high enough. And the 'increased damage from behind' is likely to encourage MNKs to move behind the mob from time to time instead of using flank-only rotations. Yeah, it will likely result in a damage increase, but 10%? Doubt it.

[abzoluut]

I don't think people want to see a Bard dps nerf, I certainly don't! What I do like to be fixed is peoples brains: "LF bard BCT1/2" (already a brd in group). It's because it became a standard like when people would leave if they did not see a PLD or SMN/BLM doing Titan HM. People want the easiest fight possible..

In order to fix this, making the fight less attractive when stacking bards, SE will tweak bard a little. I do not think their dps will drop below DoH. xD