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  1. #41
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    Kirsi's Avatar
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    Shampoo Leithrit
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    Mateus
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    Carpenter Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Esmian View Post
    Kinda think you guys are being a bit ridiculous about paid wins. People who pay for wins are typically encouraged to actually try their best in the fight and not told just to go off and kill themselves. A decent portion of them actually do pretty well in the fights up until they get killed by a mechanic.

    The only real difference between carrying for free and carrying on a paid run is that when you're doing it for free the person you're helping is generally expected to not drag the group down and contribute to the fight's success. In fact a less skilled player probably faces less hostility/frustration from the group if they make a mistake in a paid run because their contribution is more of a bonus.
    Truth, just because someone buys a win doesn't mean they don't know the fight. Titan is an 8 person fight and at the moment you could probably beat it with a minimum of 4 people. What these people pay for is not ALWAYS a carry but 7 other capable individuals which could take a while to find if one does not have experienced friends or FC members. Some people spend over a week looking for that "Perfect" pick up group and most people can make more than what it costs to pay for a titan run in a single day. The obvious option is to save time and pay for assistance instead of relying on the part of the community which refuses to learn the mechanics and blame lag.
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  2. #42
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    SchalaZeal's Avatar
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    Schala Zeal
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirsi View Post
    Truth, just because someone buys a win doesn't mean they don't know the fight. Titan is an 8 person fight and at the moment you could probably beat it with a minimum of 4 people. What these people pay for is not ALWAYS a carry but 7 other capable individuals which could take a while to find if one does not have experienced friends or FC members. Some people spend over a week looking for that "Perfect" pick up group and most people can make more than what it costs to pay for a titan run in a single day. The obvious option is to save time and pay for assistance instead of relying on the part of the community which refuses to learn the mechanics and blame lag.
    I paid 100k for a Titan carry. I regularly make 200+k a day. And yeah, couldnt find groups of FC-only 8.
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  3. #43
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    Nura's Avatar
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    Tiberia Melanith
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    Phoenix
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschey View Post
    Because it's unfair and mean to ask someone incapable of doing content to pay for it! Just because they aren't skilled enough doesn't mean they shouldn't get it for free like everyone else.
    What are you, an elitist who wants to increase the gear gap between skilled and unskilled players?
    You don't get the point he still needs to collect the money to pay for it.
    It is the same as with the Tomestones if you collect enough you get Ilvl90 gear
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  4. #44
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    Ninix's Avatar
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    Talim Amariyo
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Tarushade View Post
    Can't wait to start helping people for free and strengthen the community by helping others in need.
    If by "strengthen the community" you mean "carrying people through encounters they're not ready for into even harder content", then, uh, you're doing a fantastic job.

    edit:
    Obviously not every person getting carried through Titan is terrible/needing more practice on the fight but speaking from a hundred or so Titan runs of experience, an awful lot of them are.
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    Last edited by Ninix; 11-24-2013 at 06:16 AM.

  5. #45
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Feyniphia View Post
    TWO Landslides indicators on later stages of the fight? AWESOME, time to see who'll get pushed into that edge.
    From what I see, that's three landslide lines... where's your gods now?
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  6. #46
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    Melithea's Avatar
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    Melithea Tinvelle
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MikefriedSpes View Post
    Just how life works. Pay for something you otherwise can't accomplish with your own merits. not to say you can't do it, but everyone is different. Don't hate people who pay for Titan nor the people who charge.
    Sounds like I should start charging to heal AK runs. Or any dungeon run, for that matter.

    If they don't like it they can do it without me, right?
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  7. #47
    Player yamface's Avatar
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    Yam Face
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    Lamia
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Anyone else see this as just a bad design? If you're going to release new content, why be lazy about it by tweaking a few numbers up and call it "extreme" mode? I started getting bored of wow ever since their new definition of new content was "hard mode".
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  8. #48
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    Einsof Zeb
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by yamface View Post
    Anyone else see this as just a bad design? If you're going to release new content, why be lazy about it by tweaking a few numbers up and call it "extreme" mode? I started getting bored of wow ever since their new definition of new content was "hard mode".
    Well I'd wait until we have a full kind of idea about what to expect from these battles. We don't know that they're really just gimmicked hard modes set to be annoying.
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  9. #49
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    Nura's Avatar
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    Tiberia Melanith
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    Phoenix
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Well if this so called extreme mode is only harder because it does more in less time.. I am extremly dissapointed in the whole design SE has probably no Idea how to do a Hard boss.
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  10. #50
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    Ri_ri's Avatar
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by yamface View Post
    Anyone else see this as just a bad design? If you're going to release new content, why be lazy about it by tweaking a few numbers up and call it "extreme" mode? I started getting bored of wow ever since their new definition of new content was "hard mode".
    Bad design is taking what makes most people rage (one hit kill mechanics + latency) and making it worse. They're betting too high on their "0.3 update delay" fix; I'm sure it'll still be almost unplayable during peak hours.
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