You guys defending SE are nuts. What do you have against GRIN? Some other time I'm going to make a thread to show you the difference between GRIN's work and the crazy copy/pasta we got dished on FFXIV. There's no comparison. And no doubt that GRIN would have shipped better looking FF art for FFXIV if they were given a chance. SE is way behind the times right now, it's sad. None of you have anything to lose by commenting on GRIN, or *gasp* agreeing with them.