Why is there still so much to do at end game?

[Uriahnool]

I mean seriously guys, I got from level 0 to level 50 and beat the story and now I am at end game. I still have to beat hard mode garuda, then titan, then get my relic weapon, and then get all this darklight armor which I haven't gotten more than two pieces of. And then, and THEN I gotta get my crafting up to 50 so I can repair some things and make some money, and THEN I have to do some fishing and then I gotta collect all the minions and level up my companion and then I have to get my GC rank up to max and then work on another class. I see some things about coil runs which I haven't begun to touch yet. And all this is without even getting to socializing and helping other players out.

Why so many people complain there is little to do at end game is beyond me. And i've been playing almost every day.

[SynMaris]

Because some people have done all of what you just listed.

[storm]

Why so many people complain there is little to do at end game is beyond me.

Because almost everything you listed is ancillary.

[Ri_ri]

I haven't even finished gearing up my classes yet. I still use AK gear for BLM and SMN, and white acessories for PLD. WHM can be fully geared when I hit 50 (my main is SCH), but I'll try to get different gear for that class.

If people didn't use their +1 Relics to SR WP and gear up every job they had, they wouldn't be bored.

[Uriahnool]

I haven't even finished gearing up my classes yet. I still use AK gear for BLM and SMN, and white acessories for PLD. WHM can be fully geared when I hit 50 (my main is SCH), but I'll try to get different gear for that class.

If people didn't use their +1 Relics to SR WP and gear up every job they had, they wouldn't be bored.

Oh yeah, I still have to get those +1 things also

[Altena]

I haven't even finished gearing up my classes yet. I still use AK gear for BLM and SMN, and white acessories for PLD. WHM can be fully geared when I hit 50 (my main is SCH), but I'll try to get different gear for that class.

If people didn't use their +1 Relics to SR WP and gear up every job they had, they wouldn't be bored.

That's like saying "if people didn't complete content, then they wouldn't be bored."

In actual fact, yes we would, we would still be bored - just completing content slower.

[Matsume]

You forgot achievements, luminary and the like y'know.

[Nullie]

These threads. Someone complains about something and then someone makes a counter thread in protest to them. And then its "Everyone is complaining." so I'm going to complain about the people complaining.

Whatever, no one plays at the same speed or pace you do. Some people may be slower. Some may be faster. Do not forget that there was a time this game ran during the 1.0 era. And it was during that time people had absolutely nothing else to do, but level their classes and jobs. Some people logged in at the start of 2.0 to find all they had was endgame content and 3 months in well... do you honestly think 3 primals, 2-4 endgame dungeons and 1 raid that locks you out is enough to keep people satisfied for months? Some people may not be interested in crafting or gathering. Honestly, looking at it, there really isn't a need for it right now. It's not mandatory that you level those just to keep you busy until more content comes out. Most of the people who do those either enjoy it or enjoy making money.

For some of us, like myself, this game has been out for years now with nothing much more to do than grind 50 content. People jumped for joy when they introduced Darkhold and Ifrit in 1.0. I've kept myself busy and I have no complaints about the current state of the game, but that doesn't mean other people will or will not. Some people don't want to log in to keep spamming fates over and over or sitting in que times waiting on dungeons. People may be a little impatient waiting for some new content, but I don't blame them. Nor will I try to tell them to do stuff they most likely don't enjoy because I enjoy it.

[Ryans]

Because almost everything you listed is ancillary.

Everything in an MMO is ancillary. Most prefer to do end game dungeons, but that isn't a requirement to complete the main story (which is the only thing that you can't argue against being the fundamental basis of a game.) Some wouldn't play an MMO without end game dungeons, some wouldn't play without a crafting system, some without a vanity system. There is a lot of stuff to do in-game, but not everyone gets the same level of enjoyment from the same activity.

Something you view as optional could be entirely essential to someone else.

[Ri_ri]

That's like saying "if people didn't complete content, then they wouldn't be bored."

In actual fact, yes we would, we would still be bored - just completing content slower.

And completing the content faster and getting bored now instead of December is the right way to do it?

It's funny people say that FATEs makes people not learn their class, when most don't even play their jobs while gearing up. Instead of doing it in AF (where everything is harder), they SR WP with their mains, gear up their alts and then go to WP... I guess that explains all the 3.600 HP healers dying to the giant bavarois because Esuna is for weaklings.