Wanderer's Palace Discrimation

[EasymodeX]

Umm, you can do 11-12 minute runs as long as you have 1 SMN, BLM or WHM.

If you have MNK x2 you could probably hit 14-15.

WP speed runs are mostly about pulling methodology and AOE CC, not actual DPS. The AOE CC can be substituted, but makes things harder. Lower AOE DPS makes things more difficult, but still possible.

[T0rin]

If you dont take a BLM / BRD, it can push the time to like 25min or so which is double the time so most people dont like it.

I chuckled.

[CyanDvai]

Somebody says they don't like to play with MNKs, so you instantly attack and insult them? Absolutely disgusting.

Yep, they plainly said that in DF they will drop if there's a mnk. What else do you call that? You don't want to run with a certain class then premake your party like everyone else that want that "ideal" group, other wise get over yourself, you or her are not special.

[Mitski]

Everyone's aware of the advantages of running a BLM in WP, but MNK is also strong. If you're having 25-30 minute WP runs... that's not a class problem; that's a pull structure, cooldown management, or gear problem.

My usual group is MNK/BRD, and we clear in 12 minutes.

[Zigkid3]

I'm always popping internal release+blood for blood (do a howling fist) +perfect balance => spam rockbreaker just about every other trash pull. when perfect balance isnt up i use my 3rd combo on rockbreaker. people would be surprised at how much aoe a monk can do on trash.

[Leash]

I've encountered a few instances where the Tank leaves from he start anytime I got paired up with a MNK on DF and its rather infuriating.

Yeah they have to wait 15min before que up again but DPS have to wait 30+mins for another hit on DF and I don't think these odds are fair at all. Honestly Tanks, if you don't like getting paired up like this then don't use DF for speed runs and form your own group.

There needs to be a huge penalty for leaving a group early into a Dungeon. Like within the first 15mins if someone leaves, they have to wait an hour before they can run another dungeon.

And I know there's going to be a ranking system put in place, I hope you will be able to rate people negatively for ditching.

[glen7187]

I kind of skimmed through the thread but I thought this was interesting cause I was just watching it the other day to try to teach myself how to tank SR WP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi6TUplUuoM

Did it in 8:24...

[blowfin]

Honestly Tanks, if you don't like getting paired up like this then don't use DF for speed runs and form your own group.

There needs to be a huge penalty for leaving a group early into a Dungeon. Like within the first 15mins if someone leaves, they have to wait an hour before they can run another dungeon.

One of the best ideas I've seen on here for a while, abandonment penalties are way too soft in this game. At the moment there are some valid reasons to leave because there's no iLvl requirement for dungeons. With 2.1 though (iLvl requirements), there won't really be any excuses to leave a run early.

[Jinrya-Geki]

My brother and I, and two other friends did it in 10 minutes and 45 seconds as 2 blm and 1 pld and a whm. It's very possible.

[MichuAmane]

lol why speed run anyway .. who isn't spiritbonding?