The Solo disease?

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Honestly he did infact state from the first post on he does not like to group. And openly admited he questions why people group in the first place. And in my opinion does this in a negative way.
Solo'ers can pick and choose any mmo. There will be content that people can solo. And there will be content meant for grouping. This comment was stated several times.
His treply has been "why, why does content gotta be either or, why can content be both?"
the replies back have been "because that is the way it is, and that if content is both people will choose to solo over grouping because there would be no need to group, that even if you do want to group you get mocked"
he then replies, back "your just saying something that is made up, there isn't no rule that mmo sare about grouping. or your just saying "your right and i'm wrong"

By diffinition that is infact attacking someone.

[options]

@ options actually and I'm saying it nicely. you let a bad experiemce rule your game. Since u had bad random parties, you now dislike any of them

They don't rule my game as i can do other things. Options are handy there. But yes i do agree with you that i dislike them and please don't force them onto me as i'm sure there are many things i would like implemented that you would dislike. And before you say this is a FF title and group based that is BS. FFxvi was previewed as a having BOTH solo and group based content.

I came to this game with that promise. I left FFxi because i couldn't solo when not grouping and when i read that it was going to have solo content, i was like, wow, cool. gotta try this out. Hopefully it would be like ffxi but without all that boring stuff. And although i left FFxi years ago i still thought the battle system was better then what i have come across prior and after FFxi.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

First: I respect the OP's desire to play the game the way he wants to. It's not the same way *I* want to play, but I'm not playing his game or having fun for him.

Second: When I was reading that whole back & forth exchange between Jester & Kilta, for some reason the thing that kept popping in my head was an old post. In this post, I vaguely recall that Kilta told an anecdote about how in FFXI she was ostracized for trying to play a melee Red Mage (read: play the way SHE wanted to play her character). I find it quite ironic that someone who so vehemently defended a player's right to have fun the way the player deems fit is now trying to say that the way someone wants to have fun is wrong.

Lastly: I'm going to bed now. But thanks for the entertaining read (pretty much all day long off & on)

i never said that. I got on his case for saying his pov rudely. Idc if he solos. Just do not be rude about it. And I also stated a few times how I solo stuff myself.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

They don't rule my game as i can do other things. Options are handy there. But yes i do agree with you that i dislike them and please don't force them onto me as i'm sure there are many things i would like implemented that you would dislike. And before you say this is a FF title and group based that is BS. FFxvi was previewed as a having BOTH solo and group based content.

I came to this game with that promise. I left FFxi because i couldn't solo when not grouping and when i read that it was going to have solo content, i was like, wow, cool. gotta try this out. Hopefully it would be like ffxi but without all that boring stuff. And although i left FFxi years ago i still thought the battle system was better then what i have come across prior and after FFxi.

And no one here has an issue with group or solo content but the OP. He wants content to be both. Which is not easy to do. And refuses to take into account of replies abou that :P

[Frisque]

You're half-right. You didn't talk about being a red mage in this thread, but you have mentioned it in another past thread. (probably multiple)

[Kilta_Firelotus]

truth be told After abyssea was launched i ended up soloing alot or just duoing with my then bf. As getting a group under level 75 was non existant. So again I have no hate for solo'ers just those who are rude about it. I feel the OP was rude about it, and actually asked the op why this topic is even up, as I never seen anyone complain about solo'ers ingame or on these forums. To me he is simply saying "i join mmo and play solo, I do not and even dislike to group, got an issue with that too bad" He wants people to understand his side, and his side only. And wheb someone agrees that he has a right to solo, but then adds "but expect group content at some point" he posts like that is a personal insult.
And constently askes "why it needs to be like that?" To anyone who does this. Ingnoring or attacking any explination. Again this is in my opinion.

I mostly suggested for him to be less rude. If he wants ppl to understand his pov he can do so w/o the self entitlement or soapbox "i speak for soloist".

[Kilta_Firelotus]

You're half-right. You didn't talk about being a red mage in this thread, but you have mentioned it in another past thread. (probably multiple)

I didn't say He has no right to solo and never said he can't solo.
I repeated said I do not mind solo'ers unless they are rude, or effect the game negatively. When asked by what I meant. I did reply to him on what happen to me on WoW. Pretty much idm solo'ers but if an mmo has nothing BUT solo'ers it can be hard on those who group. Or at least is what I meant to say

fyi ffxi is alot more solo friendly now when it comes to leveling they doubled exp and made it so ppl can solo tough mobs. Pretty much I was getting 200-230 exp a kill solo :P

[options]

I hate to be rude about this, but as much as I am for options. My question is why play mmorpg. I know several single player games with huge worlds Elder scrolls and fall out come to mind. Sure you have a r8ight to play mmorpg, but from my stance most solo-ist are rude. They come into mmorpg knowing the "point" is playing with others. The whine once they run into content that requires groups. I'm all for options, i'm all for allowing anyone to play. But a line should be drawn at some point. When you join community games your suppose to be apart of that community. Which is what even well seasoned mmorpg'er forgot.

One i'm mostly tired of, is when a solo-ist joins an LS and doesn't talk or contribute. They act snobby. Which is why solo-ers have a bad stigma.

Pretty much solo all you want but do not ruin the mmorpg for others due to you need to solo.

Sorry but I ran into too many rude solo'ers. And really do not feel they should play mmorpg and ruin it because their need to solo in a community game.

Sorry but this was your stance way before content came into this argument. Maybe my comprehension skills need some tweaking but what i got out of the OP was that he was questioning the hate for soloers and not asking for solo only content in his initial post.

Your first post states most solers are rude and that they/I should play SP games. An mmo in itself should be massive and should support all playstyles and not be niche. The more ppl who play means more money for SE (oneday), the more money, the more support, the more support the more content. Keep it niche and you'll find less groups and less gear to find. SWG was the first mmo i played that had a crafter class. It was great when ppl played, top gear, top stats and in abundance, but try and find any decent gear now.

I'm not attacking you in particular but you are the person replying. I am just defending the individuals playstyle as i play both ways and see from both sides.

[Xandre]

Kilta, at this point you are just spamming this thread. It's unfortunate that I come back to see nearly twenty pages discussing the same issue as before, which isn't even focusing on the original topic. Looking at the last page right now, seven out of the ten comments are from you. You don't need to post multiple comments one right after the other or even respond to every poster. Please, in the future, put all your thoughts into one post.

Let's move on.

Thank you.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

ahh ok. That was taken out of context I didn't mean for him to go play sp games. Sorry if it sounded like that . At the time the way it sounded (and still does) is he hates and will refuse to party. To me as well as others stated clashes with the concept of mmorpg. The way he sounded was he was not interested in being apart of the community. And As you can read I did appologies. And did say that my stance was based on experience with solo'ers (not including my solo friends) That the stigma soloers have is due to how rude that sound when Either 1 they find out most content at end game is group based. 2 when asked to party, bluntly refuse in a rude sounding way.

If i was rude, Then I'm sorry. I must been 1/2 a sleep. As i forgot nor seen I wrote that. I prob was sour from reading the OP sounding self entitled.

But he did sort of proved that when people did state they do not mind solo'ers but there will be group only content. Which he started fuming.