My problem with this amazing game.

[Arriverderci]

No, because they're different games. I wouldn't expect any MMO to launch with 4+ full story campaigns, dozens of raids/dungeons and 20+ classes because that's an unreasonable expectation. If a game is a direct sequel then maybe I could see having that kind of expectation but that's rarely ever the case, especially with MMOs. Content takes time to create and this game is not building directly on top of another. It is its own new game with its own classes, world and content separate from all other games.

I dunno.
For a P2P game, it sure is lacking.
Kinda feels like a step backwards. New game, rebuilt game or not.
As it stands, it is not P2P worthy, it's only because it's called Final Fantasy why we have to pay.
We have more problems than a F2P game. I expected y'know...quality gameplay and services.
Feels like I'm dealing with Maple Story hacking RMT's and Nexon support.
End-game is not fun in this game. I quit with the whole WP runs so I craft.
I told my friends to wait a few patches if they wanna give this game a go, not worth it now.

[mindful]

No, because they're different games. I wouldn't expect any MMO to launch with 4+ full story campaigns, dozens of raids/dungeons and 20+ classes because that's an unreasonable expectation. If a game is a direct sequel then maybe I could see having that kind of expectation but that's rarely ever the case, especially with MMOs. Content takes time to create and this game is not building directly on top of another. It is its own new game with its own classes, world and content separate from all other games.

Thing is there are hundreds of mmos out now days most f2p . It would not be that hard to get some of that talent to help out on a mmo. Like some the newer mmos now are now doing. Many game ideas have been trial and error for the last 10 years on mmos. Some work some do not , and there still room to improve the genre.

[Blarp]

I have to agree with the OP. I'd love some talent trees, or basically anything to customize my job a bit. Our Chocobos are more customizable than the main jobs in the game. That's just dumb.

[DrCake]

There will never be a mmo released that will satisfy everyone at launch. Look at TERA, that game was a breath of fresh air in the mmo world, but then it died after four months because the end game was... well, there was no endgame. Now, it's more popular than it was before. Just give ARR time, they are using a phoenix down on a failed game and trying to make it their own. Everything with games takes money and time. Even if we were given 20 classes from the start, people would still be complaining about imbalances, lack of skills, and whatever else they can think of after powering through the game.

[Shiyo]

There will never be a mmo released that will satisfy everyone at launch. Look at TERA, that game was a breath of fresh air in the mmo world, but then it died after four months because the end game was... well, there was no endgame. Now, it's more popular than it was before. Just give ARR time, they are using a phoenix down on a failed game and trying to make it their own. Everything with games takes money and time. Even if we were given 20 classes from the start, people would still be complaining about imbalances, lack of skills, and whatever else they can think of after powering through the game.

Everyone I know is waiting for 2.1 to decide if they continue to sub or not. They'll stay subbed to 2.1 until they get bored, then never come back if 2.1 isn't AMAZING.

[Tsukino]

The issue isn't the number of jobs, it's the fact that each one is completely identical. There are zero choices in your abilities or equipment as any of the nine jobs in the game.

FFXI may have had a similar number (11 vs. 9) but you also had support jobs to choose from (no, WAR/WHM was not good, but that doesn't mean there was only one valid choice per job) and equipment wasn't a completely linear progression.

WoW may have had less classes, but each one had very different talent choices, resulting in at least 20 legitimately competitive combinations. Again, they weren't all good choices, but there was more than one perfect build for each class.

They don't need to have any more jobs right out of the gate, but they need to make it so that one level 45 black mage isn't a carbon copy of every other level 45 black mage.

[Valcro]

I like how no one actually disagrees with the OP and instead looks to their 'only 9 jobs in this entire game' comment to troll.

I strongly agree that this game has been extremely linear. Personally for me, allowing us to choose which two sub classes to draw abilities from would go a long ways in making things better. As things stand, classes get massive freedom but who plays classes for groups? When jobs are obviously designed to be THE one you choose for groups? So classes are left for soloing or farting around in small groups of two or three. I guess that's why they get ten slots. Apparently jobs get only five slots from two predetermined classes for so called balance purposes.

This system is superior to the sub job system in FFXI, but it loses a lot of it's luster when it's so restrictive. It's no longer superior. It might even be inferior. FFXI gets one sub job but FFXIV gets two! that are predetermined and only has select abilities that can be shared unlike FFXI where a sub job gave all abilities up to the half way point in levels. For those that are not aware that means a 75 WHM with a 37 BLM sub could use all abilities and spells up to a level 37 BLM. I can live with a stripped down version of this if I could choose which two classes I can draw abilities from. I might even call it superior despite having a limited selection because there's far less chance of imbalances that plagued FFXI for it's entire existence.

No matter what you do though, there is nada you can do about everyone looking and playing the same way. People will look for the best way to play MMORPGs and eventually it becomes the standard and expected of you to follow their lead. BUT, that is sure a hell of a lot better than having no choice whatsoever on the matter. Linearity sucks.

[Grailer]

yep the lack of customisation is pretty bad tbh . an example if stat allocation , I mean how many different builds are there ? Almost every player who is a PLD is identical to the next PLD etc . There is no diversity . Everyone is clone , even armor . I mean look at tanks in darklight ... clones .

I was hoping you could mix and match skills to make amazing classes like a warrior who has the ability to cast BLM spells for example, or a bard who uses a 2h axe , a monk that can also be a healer .

Some say the game requires skills .

My nephew who has never played this game before jumped on my PLD and successful tanking WP run with only 1 wipe . I gave him a few instructions while he was playing , he didn't dodge a single AOE either lol .

[Matsume]

There is only 9 Jobs in this entire game.

Looking at my Classes in my Character screen I count 20 (arcanist counting as 2) nevertheless!

19 Jobs after 11 years. FFXI only started with 6 Jobs: BLM WHM WAR THF MNK RDM

This.

If you research the launch history of each of the games you mentioned (OP) you will noticed that few, if any, had as much customization nor as many jobs as they do now...

You cannot compare the customization of an MMO that has been combed over relentlessly for 10+ years to that of a brand new mmo. Apples to oranges my friend.

May as well start complaining that children are born as babies rather than full fledged adults while you're at it.

[Dhaenon]

If you research the launch history of each of the games you mentioned (OP) you will noticed that few, if any, had as much customization nor as many jobs as they do now...

You cannot compare the customization of an MMO that has been combed over relentlessly for 10+ years to that of a brand new mmo. Apples to oranges my friend.

May as well start complaining that children are born as babies rather than full fledged adults while you're at it.[/QUOTE]

If I remember correctly... FFXI launched in America with what I have previously said. WoW launched with what.. Warrior, Mage, Rogue, Druid, Shaman, Warlock, Paladin, Hunter and Priest. Yet they had the 3 spec lines like I mentioned. Please stop telling me I am comparing them incorrectly. DAOC launched.. LAUNCHED with 30+ classes. SWTOR hasn't added anything. Everything I said is correct. A game shouldn't launch with the promise that, one day it will be on par with games out currently. That is stupid.